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Ask HN: Where do you submit your landing pages to gather potential users?

12 points by tim_nuwin 11 years ago · 10 comments · 1 min read


I'm trying to build a following with a pre-launch of a blog following projects I'll be tackling next year (http://timnuwin.com)

Even though I've mentioned it a few times in IRC + google plus and collected a few emails, I don't want to spam them and piss off the users who don't want to see it. Thanks.

codegeek 11 years ago

You don't submit it anywhere necessarily. The best way is to get users to come to you which involves doing many things.

First, have quality content that you are genuinely interested in writing. Be detailed but also with a human touch. Keep it interesting. Cite real stories if you can

Use a good newsletter software (Mailchimp, Aweber etc) and make it easy for a user to give you their email address. Make it clear why you are collecting their email and what will you do with it. If someone is genuinely interested in your stuff, they will gladly subscribe

Start with a very simple Blog template where the focus is on your content and nothing fancy. i personally like 2 column with the right/left column having an About section and a newsletter form below it. thats it.

One trick with blogs is that you can auto post them to your social networks like fb, twitter etc. If you use wordpress, there is a great plugin called "SNAP" that stands for Social Network Auto Poster. Check it out.

Add Google analytics to your homepage. Create some "goals" and see how users behave on your site.

Initially, focus on writing quality stuff and forget about optimizing on google, SEO etc. It will happen with good quality content for the most part.

Rinse and repeat. There is no magic wand but this should give you a pretty good start.

Lastly, make sure you know what to do with the collected email addresses. Do you have a campaign setup ? Do you have autoresponders ? If you don't know what these are, read about them. Engaging your users who could be potential customers is a daunting task but also fun if you do it right.

  • trcollinson 11 years ago

    Lately on HN there have been a number of threads on people being quite successful with blogs and such. Of course this has left me thinking, "Hey! I know interesting things. I bet I could share them in a blog and be rather successful with it." This, however, if the first post I have read that really explains in step by step detail how to make it really successful! So, thank you.

    One additional question: What kind of success have you personally had with following steps like these?

ASquare 11 years ago

Try betali.st and erlibird.com

There's no guarantee of when they'll show up (unless you pay) but there are the most common ways to get your pre-launch startup in front of an audience who is interested in seeing new product everyday.

AznHisoka 11 years ago

Nowhere. You find interested people manually and tell them about it. Do things that don't scale.

  • tim_nuwinOP 11 years ago

    Hmm.. I mean I guess if you want to get quality people off the bat, but there's gotta be a place for people interested in a particular topic to be able to discover blogs easily.

    • chatmasta 11 years ago

      Hmmmm.... yeah.... if only there were some kind of news aggregator, with links to blogs on topics that people were interested in... hmmm

      ;-)

      • tim_nuwinOP 11 years ago

        haha, yeah but if I were to advertise the blog for sign-ups on hackernews or reddit it would most likely be marked off as spam.

        • chatmasta 11 years ago

          Would it though? You need to be a little sneakier with your self promotion (and also not be ashamed of it!) It seems like you're suffering from the same problem many engineers do when faced with marketing their products or themselves. You don't want to spam people who aren't interested in your product (you). Fair enough. Nobody wants to be a spammer.

          I've always been a marketer first, so I don't have any personal advice for overcoming this. I would advise you to look at some of the biggest brands, both corporate and personal, and look at their marketing strategies. You'll find that each brand, especially in its early stages, consistently market(ed|s) itself in ways that you might deem "spammy". A frequent example is Airbnb -- they pulled their listings from craigslist before they had both sides of the rental market. How else were they supposed to get customers?

          Is that spamming? Is it spamming to promote your product? To engage in tactics that make it better for your users? If airbnb didn't use craigslist to acquire early users, it likely would never have gained traction, and nobody would use airbnb today. That would suck! Ask any airbnb user if they would be happy if airbnb was gone. They will probably answer no. Therefore they are happier because airbnb exists, but airbnb only exists because of the "spammy" tactics its founders used in its early stages.

          Is "spamming" wrong when it benefits your product/brand, and makes it better for your users (ultimately the only ones you care about)? Do you care what people think if they aren't going to use your product or subscribe to your brand? Why should you?

          Once you realize that every popular brand goes through some kind of growth hacking and/or marketing phase, you can accept it as the status quo requirement for initial promotion. Then you have to realize that a personal brand is no different than a corporate one. All the same branding rules apply.

          Look at patio11, Brendan Dunn, Nathan Barry. They are two HN power users. They have followings of people who upvote every post they write, who subscribe to their email lists, and who buy their products. What do they all have in common? PERSONAL BRANDING. They aren't afraid to brag about themselves, they aren't afraid to ask for your email, and they aren't afraid to pitch themselves to you as a product. They understand their personal brands are valuable assets and they treat them as such. If you want to compete on the same plane, you need to engage in the same tactics.

          Self promotion is nothing to be ashamed of. Everybody does it. It's the online analogue of self-confidence. Every leader needs to first be confident in himself/herself, before anyone else can be confident in him/her. Leaders need people to be confident in them. Therefore leaders need to be confident in themselves. Self-confidence begets self-promotion, and both feed on each other. Act confident, give people a reason to follow you, and build a following. As your following grows, so will your confidence. It's a positive feedback cycle. Be confident, promote yourself.

          Congratulations on being on the receiving end of my daily diatribe! :) Hopefully something I said helps you. Just put yourself out there.

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