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How Famo.us will change the surface of modern web apps

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23 points by zapnap 12 years ago · 20 comments

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igl 12 years ago

How much do i get by writing a Famo.us hype article?

Zelphyr 12 years ago

Yet another Framework. Its as if developers these days get paid purely on the number of frameworks they can spit out.

  • malandrew 12 years ago

    Upfront I'd like to state that I'm the first employee at famo.us and I've been on Hacker News for 3 years and 10 months, and have a karma of almost 6000. I deeply care about this community, as its one of my primary outlets for intellectual expression and stimulation.

    If you look at any of my past posts that involve discussion of famo.us you will see that I've attempted to remain as neutral as possible and always a disclaimer of my affiliation whenever I've stated an opinion that merits one.

    Like you I've also been one to point out conflicts or interest or even go as far as to investigate suspicious comments on hacker news to see if there may be a conflict of interest someone should disclose. I too am a vociferous defender of the culture on HN.

    If anyone can understand your concerns and suspicions, it's me. However I will vouch on the honor of all the karma I've earned as a member of this community that there was no payola involved involved in the writing of this post. Even if someone at the company were plotting to do a payola for a blog post, I would question it. At previous jobs I have prevented any several attempts to make edits to Wikipedia articles about the organization for which I worked because of the clear conflict of interest.

    Lastly, if my word is not sufficient, and you are the type to require some sort of proof. I will present the following evidence that demonstrates that Byron Matto (bmatto) on HN is the kind of developer to be self motivated to promote an open-source project he believes in. On April 19, I saw that Byron was giving a lightning talk in Boston at a Javascript meetup (I check reddit, HN, meetup.com and google crawl results from the last 24hrs about once a day). I reached out to him via twitter, to see if we could be of any help [0]. To my knowledge this is the only interaction between bmatto and the company, except for may IRC conversations. I believe he might be one of the people that idle on #famous on freenode. Obviously, you may interpret this piece of evidence as proof of relation, but I hope that between my word and the acknowledgment that bmatto has, of his own volition, given back to the JS community at least once prior to any contact with the company as sufficient to suggest that your top-most voted comment may be the kind of dismissive post the likes of which PG is concerned about on HN.

    Think what you will about famous after this, I just hope you can find it in you to give bmattos here a little respect as the kind of developer that maintains a blog and shares his experiences. I know I'm indebted to him and hundreds of other developers like him that take the initiative to contribute.

    [0] https://twitter.com/andrewdeandrade/status/45763790543586918...

    • malandrew 12 years ago

      Ooops, I should have posted this either to either alecsmart1 or igl's comment on this thread.

      My apology to you Zelphyr since most of my comment wasn't meant to address your point. The only part that is relevant is the part about making a dismissive comment that often becomes the most upvoted comment that pg often laments brings down the quality of discourse on HN.

      Lastly, FWIW, this post wasn't even submitted to HN by bmattos, but a very long-time HN member whose been on HN for 6 years and 3 months. He's got a good HN reputation and a pretty solid github profile. Hardly the kind of person who I would imagine would submit payola posts.

    • bmatto 12 years ago

      oh the feels

ollysb 12 years ago

How do you access the demos on https://famo.us ? I've signed up for an account but still can't get access.

alecsmart1 12 years ago

Looks like a blatant paid blog ad.

swah 12 years ago

What is this?

  • sunsu 12 years ago

    This is absolutely not "Just another ui framework". Famo.us takes a completely new approach HTML5 apps and no other framework even comes close in terms of UI performance. There really is just no comparison and this framework is going to change how HTML5 UI is done.

  • igl 12 years ago

    Just another ui framework with velocity-like fast animations.

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