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93% of paint splatters are valid Perl programs (2019)

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483 points by zenincognito · 65 comments

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dukoid

Now I wonder if that holds for Objective C programs, too....

snitty

SIGBOVIK papers are almost always a delight

EDIT: From their 2026 publication

>Permission to make digital or hard copies of portions of this work for personal use is granted; permission to make digital or hard copies of portions of this work for classroom use is also granted, but seems ill-advised

gnabgib

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2024 (515 points, 125 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40197013

2021 (431 points, 165 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27929730

layer8

Tangentially related, the only way for a Java properties file to be invalid is if it contains an invalid Unicode escape sequence (“\u” not followed by four digits, and not preceded by an odd number of “\”). After resolving Unicode escapes, any character sequence is a valid properties file.

  • hyperman1

    I've had a program where some R code stuffs some input in an URL, fires it at a server, then reads the returned CSV. No error handling or validation is attempted.

    As it happens, basically anything is a valid CSV.

    If the input is wrong, the server responds with an XML error. This got interpreted as a CSV. Every line became a record, but no column headers were found so every expected field is null/NA. All these nulls get nicely sorted and processed, which causes more string errors, etc ... Mayhem ensues when thst stuff ends up in a database.

    • hilariously

      CSV is not a format, its a vague idea, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrqSp8m7fmk - this is a great video on how to make it fast, and how its pretty bad

      • hyperman1

        Can't agree more. I've dealt with a CSV where multiple CSVs were cat'ted together, but the originals were not in the same dialect and differed even in charset encoding. Wrote a statistics based parser that decided which part of the file had to be decoded which way. Interesting technical challenge, but my god the reasons for its existence were dumb.

        • xg15

          Falsehoods programmers believe about CSV: "Yeah, sure it's a mess and there are like, a gazillion different dialects of it, but at least once you know the dialect of a file, you can decode it"...

zenincognitoOP

The actual paper is also highly entertaining - https://www.mcmillen.dev/sigbovik/2019.pdf

  • heresie-dabord

    From the paper:

    "An interesting thing about these images is that they’re not particularly Perl-specific; for example, the program shown in Figure −3 also evaluates as the number −3 in Python (and presumably several other programming languages.)"

    We live in the age of Python, which I use every day. But I still also use Perl when it's the better tool for the job. And it often is!

  • Amorymeltzer

    In particular, I like "Figure − 3. − 3 ." as a good little easter egg.

  • 0xbadcafebee 

      The remainder of the valid Perl programs are mostly valid due to a Perl
  language feature that is not commonly present in most programming languages.
  Namely, Perl has a feature called “unquoted strings”, in which a sequence
  of alphanumeric characters by itself is parsed as though it were a quoted string.
  As an example, Figure 5 is read by OCR as the text ME, which evaluates to the
  string “ME” even though the ME isn’t quoted. This would result in a syntax
  error in most other programming languages.

  (To be fair to Perl, when perl is run with the -w flag to enable warnings, it does
  helpfully inform the user that at some point in the future, the Perl developers
  will most likely pick gggijgziifiiffif as a new reserved word:
      Unquoted string "gggijgziifiiffif" may clash
      with future reserved word at - line 1.)
  • comboy

    For those who do not enjoy reading scientific papers this one is worth reading.

rurban

That's with the flexible perl5 parser with a dynamic lexer, which allows everything. For my new faster perl backend perl11-p2 I am using a PEG parser, similar to raku, which needs static rules for everything. So I bet it will not accept most of the noise. But I still can run only 50% of all perl programs.

ideasphere

I’m more interested in how the OCR missed that ‘Stitch & Shutter’ watermark in the third one.

  • michaelt

    It looks like the author used Tesseract, a traditional OCR image with lineage going back to HP flatbed scanners in the 1980s [1]

    Obviously, it's been improved a lot since then - but traditional OCR is mostly about black text on white backgrounds. Or at least, the text being high-contrast relative to the rest of the document.

    Light gold text on a white background, while there are black splatters? That's the sort of thing it would struggle with for sure.

    [1] https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.c...

  • bozdemir

    Hahahhahah good catch.

baron3dl

i loved programming perl. both the act, and the book. i long since gave it up, but i am still awed by how it could both be completely unceremonious and absurdly ceremonious. my $self = shift; for instance.

idlewords

A whole new twist on "Hackers and Painters"

jacquesm

Someone should reverse that and see how many paintings can be made to execute as Perl and what those programs do when invoked.

  • kmoser

    You could kill two birds with one stone by entering them in the Obfuscated Perl Contest, were it still being held.

    • mlmonkey

      Every single day there's an Obfuscated Perl Contest being held somewhere on this planet....

isolay

> fruitful procrastination

It is so rare to find proper appreciation for this creative skill.

charcircuit

This is more about a bad OCR than about paint splatters. They also tried multiple OCR settings until one worked. If you used more accurate OCR this would be very different.

  • michaelt

    More accurate OCR would recognise the images have no text

      $ touch temp.pl; perl temp.pl; echo "exit code $?"
  exit code 0
    which is a valid perl program. And that one image with the watermark "stitch & shutter" ?

      $ echo "stitch & shutter" > temp.pl; perl temp.pl; echo "exit code $?"
  exit code 0
    Also valid perl.
SoraTakai

It all depends on which OCR to use and therefore meaningless. It is especially more meaningless since they do not establish the baseline (OCR "pass" % on random input).

  • ashton314

    I think you’ve missed the point…

    • ckdot

      Honest question, and I’m not the person you answered to: what is the point? I sincerely don’t get it.

      • asgraham

        Well a) it’s mostly a joke, b) to the extent it’s not a joke, it’s about how Perl accepts absurd inputs as valid programs, c) OCR paint splatters are just a funny way to get to weird arbitrary strings, of which a strangely high percentage (say, 93%) are valid Perl programs, d) so the choice of OCR doesn’t really affect the “validity” of the result, and e) the author did actually try multiple OCR settings and, when multiple OCRs produced valid Perl programs, chose “the most “interesting.””

      • odo1242

        It's a joke about Perl. It's not meant to be taken seriously as a study about OCR.

xenic

Perl is such a ride. I wrote and maintained a nms/statistics/alerting stack around 2003-2004, ended up being around 200k LoC iirc. Just heard it is still in use at that company. My condolences to whoever has had to maintain that monster.

I was somewhat pleasantly surprised a few days ago when an LLM out of the blue decided to use perl, not python, for some simple scripting. There is hope in the world yet…

  • maxlybbert

    And Perl from 2003-2004 was especially bad. It took amazing effort to pass a file handle as a subroutine parameter. I once took a look at the Perl code behind Bugzilla, and quickly decided that it was better to let sleeping dogs lie.

brisket_bronson

Figure 6 represents the string “gggijgziifiiffif”, which by pure coincidence happens to accurately represent the authors’ verbal reaction upon learning that “unquoted strings” were a feature intentionally included in the Perl language

polarsanel

93% of Perl Programs are valid Paint Spatters too.

silvandeboer

The modern version would be to input the image without further context into an LLM and constrain the output to valid Rust.

sadboi_fandango

Jackson Pollock was writing perl code all along

criemen

> Apparently in the brave new world of neural nets, Anything Goes™

Quite some foresight indeed!

spwa4

Luckily with AI, that has since increased to 100% with a small prompt ...

notorandit

The problem is the ocr, then.

_doctor_love

I don't need to read the article because the headline is true.

A mentor taught me that you can also roll your face on the keyboard to produce a valid Perl program. It's easy and fun to try!

NoMoreNicksLeft

I thought perl was finally dead enough people would stop mocking it. I'll wait til next decade.

TMWNN

https://www.tiktok.com/@evakozy/video/7693620372213730592

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