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AI Users have workdays up to 90 min longer than non-users

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altairprime

For former ICs who aren’t used to watching out for overwork and burnout as new managers of agents, there’s decades of research studying why people overwork once they’re responsible for (and occasional blockers for) workers that remains just as applicable whether they’re human or bot. Start with this HBR article and explore their Overwork keyword in more depth, perhaps: https://hbr.org/2024/01/want-to-be-a-better-leader-stop-thin...

  • gosenOP

    it's actually very valid these days - we can take any book about team leadership / management and apply it to managing AI agents, it will work most of the times

  • cyanydeez

    I just implemented a task queue in my hard fork of paseo; so when I got all the ideas but need to wait for implementation on local models, I just set them all up in the queue and the agents go to work. They start in a single agent and work synchonously because thats how most tasks are, and if the agent has a question, the next item gets shunted to a new session and it continues. Just tested it out on a walk and it's surprisingly effective. Then once it's exhausted, it notifies me (TBD) and I can go in and resolve the remaining issues.

    It's definitely an issue of how people feel obligated to feed the beast, but some of it is just how the tools are setup. They can definitely be improved so you don't feel as if youre slowing down because it's idling an figment of a feature or whatever.

    But then, I'm just working a small niche non-software driven org and my goal is a "total awareness" kit that will be the hub for anyone who comes after me to carry on the required engineering and science of my company.

    • noahjk

      Would be interested to hear more about how you have this set up logically

ninjalanternshk

Non-AI users have been fired and their work shifted to AI users.

tabith

i completely believe this. i've been working from around 7AM to somewhere between 10-midnight seven days a week since june. (from home, trying to get my LLC going, but _still_)

  • gosenOP

    as a person who went through burnout twice (even before AI) I'm warning you to be careful, it always happens unexpectedly and you realize "shit I'm done" when it's a bit late

    proper rest without any work-related app in front of you (ideally outside or with other people) heals pretty fast, so make sure to clear your head that way

  • dofm

    I strongly recommend you stop doing this in the new year, find more support, and also that you spend more time than you might initially plan to on catching up with people over the festive period.

    Two reasons:

    1) burnout is real, and it can also devastate your ability to focus and enjoy really anything; you won’t know it until you get there but it can make you ill or make you more vulnerable to getting ill. I have spent two years trying not to believe I have actual dementia, and it is only now I am beginning to recover. I think agentic AI use risks a kind of burnout that is a terrible mix of something akin to doomscrolling and professional overwhelm. It’s for sure possible to burn out without it — I did — but my feeling as I get my life together and confront AI is that some people are already struggling with this; it’s paradoxically maybe only my burned out brain that stops me from getting that bad.

    2) when you disappear from people’s lives a part of you disappears with it. Six months is quite a long time; don’t let it go longer than that. It is enough to strain personal connections you might miss in the future.

    Good luck with your business, but take care of yourself :-)

  • hattmall

    But like legitimately, what is it that you are doing, that takes up that much time?

Individuum

If a computer is a bicycle for the mind, AI is an e-bike for the mind. It's simply easier to put in longer sessions.

hogehoge51

Cynical take: A form of selection bias, already unproductive deadweight employees may feel no pressure to use AI. Longer workdays relfect an already established distribution.

  • watwut

    That is not cynical take. That is wish fulfillment take, that assumes that a.) world is fair b.) worthy people are kind of like me.

gosenOP

It's all because of "just one more prompt" and then waiting for an hour to prepare everything for the over-night run :D

konfusinomicon

throw in the forced RTO commute time to sit at an open office desk, commanding the agents while others teammates do the same around you, and now thats what I call collaborative productivity maximalization for a measly 3 more hours a day.

  • gherkinnn

    I can't shake the feeling that RTO and mandated agent herding and vague threats of imminent human obsolescence are the manager class' way of bullying the previously free laptop class into a regular wage slaves.

dayjaby

Two times 5 hour shifts. Oh, no usage anymore today? Let's call it a day.

hackersnooze1

it feels a lot more feasible to fit in one more small task in at the end of the day since you’re a lot more productive which leads to me working a bit longer

  • CamperBob2

    For me, I'm in that mode right now because Fable 5.2 just dropped. As a brand-new frontier release, it will never be as fast or as smart as it is now (and I DGAF who says otherwise). So I'm working like the protagonist in "Flowers for Algernon," feeling his IQ slipping away and wanting to make the most of it while he has it.

    Probably unhealthy, but dammit, it's just too much fun.

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