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NAZA: Netanyahu orders identification and prosecution of film's interviewees

theguardian.com

97 points by hebelehubele · 34 comments

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freakynit

Ouch!! Someone is hurt by truth. What a loser.

Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIBRLEEaueo

  • pasquinelli

    i'm shocked at such behavior from the only democracy in the middle east.

    • rf15

      Careful, the definition of antisemitism is: to say that a single israeli politician is corrupt is a racist attack against every member of the jewish community in every country.

      • za3faran

        It's way beyond a single politician, and it's way beyond corruption. Several of their politicians are on file calling for outright genocide and displacement. Let's not forget that Pew poll that showed that 34% of israelis say that the IDF "did not go far enough" in what they did in Gaza.

    • verdverm

      I watched a talk today where what we call democracy would not so by the Greek philosophers, who would call what we have Aristocracies, because they defined democracy in the direct sense rather than the celebration of annual voting for representatives.

      At the core is rule by the will of the people, which we seem to be rather far from at the moment

      • dylan604

        > defined democracy in the direct sense rather than the celebration of annual voting for representatives.

        Even Russia and China have "elections". I don't think anyone would confuse them with a democracy just because they have electios

    • apexalpha

      A few more election cycles and they will be a 'democracy' like Lebanon or Egypt.

    • bathtub365

      It will be interesting to see if the upcoming elections actually happen.

    • hirvi74

      Isn't Cyprus a democracy, or does it not count as the middle east?

      • apexalpha

        How is Cyprus in the Middle East? It's either Greece, Turkish or both depending on who you ask.

        • hirvi74

          Isn't Turkey in the Middle East?

          • apexalpha

            I would've said no, confidently but I googled it just now and think many people do consider it middle east.

            So now I don't know anymore.

      • mc32

        Cyprus is conventionally Europe.

spongebobism

NAZA's subtitle doesn't overpromise. It is very much worth watching, especially for tech people. Some of the interviews get into the details of unit 8200's tech, e.g. they mention some feature inputs that their Hamas-not-Hamas classifier is based on.

Most of the facts aren't new, for example Haaretz was reporting as it was happening on the escalating amount of civilian casualties considered acceptable in a strike on a random Hamas recruit. I even remember doing the same calculation as one interviewee (~100k Hamas members * ~20 NAZA = the entire population of Gaza) at the time, and being similarly disturbed. But it's something else still to get the inside view, including the participants' motivations.

apexalpha

"When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say."

alkyon

For anyone blindly flagging this submission:

"NAZA is a 2026 British documentary film written and directed by Yuval Abraham and Rachel Szor. Produced by The Guardian and JW Films, it investigates the integration of artificial intelligence and automated surveillance in military targeting systems used by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF)"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAZA_(film)

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