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45 points by carnevalem · 19 comments

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thehamkercat

My frustration is omarchy getting more than $18 million in funding for some dotfiles... (i know it's an exaggeration, because omarchy foundation itself seems to be funding projects like Hyprland/Quickshell/mise)

but archlinux project probably deserved it instead of omarchy

(linux kernel already has enough funding i guess, so they don't need this)

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Can someone explain me, how are they going to profit off this? they can't expect to show ads to linux users right?

  • KetoManx64

    > but archlinux project probably deserved it instead of omarchy

    No it doesn't. They vomit their politics every chance they get and ban individuals/projects that disagree with them politically. (Go and try to find XLibre on the Arch Linux wiki as one small example.)

    I hope Omarchy gets another 18 million and everyone that currently donates to Arch switches to supporting Omarchy, just like previous GNOME donators are doing so we can have a new Arch base that judges individuals based on their merits and not their politics.

    • thehamkercat

      My brother there's no Om"arch"y without archlinux lmfaooo

      • KetoManx64

        Arch Linux is just a packaging format and a package manager. All you need to do is stand up your own servers and run your own builds, and point the user pacman configs at your own server and you have your own Arch Linux distribution. Omarchy is already doing this, just like Manjaro has been doing for years.

  • drcongo

    Please don't tell me mise is nazi adjacent too.

    • zrail

      Omarchy is funding mise. Make of that what you will.

    • KetoManx64

      > Nazi Adjacent

      Oh gosh, me wanting my culture to not be overrun by third world migrants is just oh so evil, what will I do with the name calling?

      • drcongo

        I'm not a therapist, but I think one way you could deal with how upset you are about supposed name calling that nobody directed at you would be to post a comment on HN pretending that you're not upset about it. See if that helps.

        • KetoManx64

          The comment isn't for you, it's for all the people out there are are getting tired of being labeled as Nazis for wanting to keep their culture and heritage alive.

  • LambdaComplex

    My frustration (on top of what you said) is that DHH is already a multimillionaire. Of all the distros, I feel like his is the one that needs donations the least.

dagi3d

Considering the multiple rounds of layoffs they have gone through, can't imagine how former employees must feel seeing how they decide to commit for $3M, which in imho has a more than questionable ROI.

realsarm

I think this not something to ignore. They might argue we do not support everything they say. But at then the only thing delivered is the damage.

  • bossyTeacher

    > They might argue we do not support everything they say.

    This was literally Mullvad's response to one of their CEO being the main founder of a party with some peculiar views.

JohnTHaller

For the unfamiliar on the background, DigitalOcean pledged $3 million to the Omacom Foundation aka the Omarchy Linux distribution. It's an AI-built distro led by David Heinemeier Hansson aka DHH. The idea being that AI can build it and run it and create all the apps it is missing like Photoshop. And that things like codes of conduct are to be shunned. Toxic behavior is welcomed as long as your code is good. It's been derisively referred to as "DOGE Linux".

Much of its popularity is apparently via certain YouTube influencers in sponsored videos that often hide their sponsorship or affiliation with Omarchy. It's gained quite a following in the "man-o-sphere".

Omarchy was formed as a culture war weapon/counterpoint against other Linux distros with codes of conduct. DHH believes such codes are used by clowns and that prohibiting racism, sexism, homophobia, etc is stupid.

DHH has some interesting views on "gypsies": https://world.hey.com/dhh/wolves-sheep-and-gypsies-ba44af6a

And "retarded" immigration policies: https://world.hey.com/dhh/three-sacred-cows-that-must-die-so...

From a technical perspective, it's been referred to as an opinionated theming layer on top of Arch Linux or a vibe coded dotfiles project as it is mostly Arch Linux with AI code atop.

From a financial perspective, DigitalOcean recently pulled funding for multiple open source projects like GNOME before this $3 million investment in Omarchy.

  • KetoManx64

    I think everyone should pull funding from the political clown show that is GNOME. Nobody should donate money to developers who actively encourage people to harm others for their politics on social media.

7bit

Great read. Great resolve.

ing33k

So the service is fine .. no downtime, no surprise bills, support works, and the tech is mostly fine. The whole issue is that DigitalOcean sponsored an open-source project led by someone whose politics you don’t like. dig deep enough and you’ll find views you disagree with behind almost every tool, company, repo/dependency you might be using out there. Once that’s the bar, where do you actually draw the line?

majorchord

A political analysis of the founders and leadership behind every product you use must be an exhausting way to live your life... but to each their own.

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