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M5Stack Launches PaperMono

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g8425

I wouldn't anticipate too much from m5stack. They have a habit of developing products that are well designed from a physical standpoint... but when you try to develop with them one finds that the software and support needed to achieve your goals are half-baked and downright annoying. UIFlow1/2, I'm looking at you...

For reference, see the M5dinmeter

  • Saris

    These are an ESP32-S3 so you can use standard tools instead of whatever their offering is. Like EEZ Studio for GUI creation on LVGL.

    Most of their products are ESP32 based I think.

  • shakna

    All of my devices from them are running micropython and my own code. Because they're all ESP32s and how everything works is documented.

    The software to achieve my goals basically "just works".

  • jareklupinski

    as long as they include a schematic for their products, i'm set

    i've always viewed m5stack / seeed / tindie as 'dev board marketplaces'; once i proof the rest of the design using their board, i take the known-working schematic and simply cut out the parts i dont want to spin rev 2, then once that is working i optimize the remaining parts for rev3, and project done :)

    • throwup238

      The better phrase is probably “reference design” marketplace. When I worked as an EE pretty much all but the hardest boards (which needed to be simulated) were glorified stripped down reference designs.

  • itsthisjustin

    You can just use freeink.org to develop for it fwiw

  • burnte

    That's been my experience too. That has lead to a small community and little real excitement around them.

  • ricardobeat

    I use plain arduino-cli to develop for them. UIFlow looks like an awful experience.

  • hackcasual

    I have a tiny devboard collection habit, and gotta say coding agents work great with these. I've got a stick and a few dials running various hyper specific UIs for home assistant.

  • shermozle

    That's when their documentation site is even up!

throwaway81523

$65, out of stock, store link: https://shop.m5stack.com/products/m5papermono-with-lora-nfc-...

RobotToaster

It has LoRa, so it will be interesting to see if meshtastic or meshcore support it.

Although it seems like it's OOS everywhere already.

NDlurker

This is competition for the new XTEINK X4 Pro. Cost about half the price and is compatible with Crosspoint too.

  • 3D30497420

    I really don't understand why the XTEINK X4 Pro doesn't have a built-in USB-C port. A good part of the appeal of a device like that is less lock-in, but then you're stuck with a proprietary connector.

    I guess this makes it a bit thinner and maybe a larger battery? I'd much rather have a slightly larger/thicker device and built-in USB-C.

    • yoavm

      I got the Xteink X4 Pro a few days ago. I was so convinced everything these days has a USB-C port, I didn't even check. Honestly it's the only downside of the device, I love everything else about it. Sure, it's small, but it's almost entirely an advantage for me. I don't even think about "should I take it with me?" - I just do, which means I read much more. The light is great for reading in bed. And CrossPoint is super solid (flashing took a minute).

    • hadlock

      The "original" XTEINK X4 (not pro) has a USB-C port - that's explicitly why I bought it. It looks like it is out of production now. The good news is they are a proven, very popular device (it's just an e-ink display glued to an ESP32 with good third party support) so this class of device should be available on AliExpress soon if not already.

      • puzzlingcaptcha

        Just to point out the usb-c on the original x4 is for charging only.

        • aix1

          Also firmware updates (on the non-locked variants), no?

          What other potential uses are there? Uploading books without WiFi is the only one that comes to mind.

    • NDlurker

      I was disappointed by that too. I didn't think it would be hard to keep track of the pogo adapter for my x3, but I did end up losing it pretty quickly.

      I really didn't want to buy the x4 pro, but I'm working on custom firmware for the x4 and I want to make sure it's compatible with the new device. Also, the lack of light was kind of annoying when I took the x4 on a camping trip. Not $100 worth annoying, but mildly annoying.

  • numpad0

    M5Stack and LilyGo products aren't necessarily end user ready. They are awkward middle grounds between shoebox sized literal circuit level prototype of smartphones and on-stage-CEO-showing-off prototypes. A bit like bake at home dough. Not competitors to real products.

    • jwr

      From what I understand, they also have no certifications (CE/FCC/VCCI and similar) and cannot really be sold as consumer products, only as kits.

  • burnte

    I just for the one that's a hair smaller than the 4, flashed it with Crosspoint, and man, I'm pretty happy with it.

  • fmajid

    and has a touchscreen

fmajid

I have the older Paper-S3, which has better specs (larger screen and battery, 16-level grayscale) and also has a Crosspoint Reader port. Nice device, clearer screen than my Pocketbook Verse.

  • a2dam

    I think you can get 60 fps out of the old Paper S3. There was a gameboy emulator I saw recently that did it with some trickery I haven't reproduced on mine, but super impressive piece of hardware.

  • leecming

    this has a frontlight

akshay_akula

Sounds like the usual m5stack story, beautiful hardware, software as an afterthought. Out of stock everywhere already too.

  • hellweaver666

    These are hobbyist devices for makers... you shouldn't consider them an Apple-esque device that just works. M5 bring the hardware, you bring the software.

3D30497420

This announcement is from a few days ago. And it seems everywhere is out-of-stock. Any news about potential availability? (In the US ideally.)

anonymous344

nice, out of stock

would need a cheaper one esp32, display the same size, battery and few buttons, no need for lights or even chassis, can 3d print it. but only found screens too small or costs more than this device!

btw where does these ship from?

cromka

This would be perfect for boats if only they ever decided to make a waterproof version. Of any of their displays, actually

  • banku_brougham

    nice flex

    • cromka

      I don't own a boat, but look to buy one and one of the odd things about this industry is very obsolete technology repackaged and sold at exorbitant proces. At least for electronics and monitoring a lot can be done cheaply by those who are skilled.

    • margalabargala

      Used boats are shockingly inexpensive in the US.

      • bigfatkitten

        The old saying that “there is nothing more expensive than a cheap aircraft” also applies to boats.

        • kstrauser

          Also:

          The two best days in a boat owner’s life are the day they buy it and the day they sell it.

        • efskap

          There's a reason it stands for Bring Over Another Thousand

gigel82

For the same ~ $55 as their lite model you get some other options:

slightly larger screen, plus a microphone and speaker: https://www.cnx-software.com/2026/08/05/zectrix-note-4-a-4-2...

same screen size with microphone and speaker, plus a magnetic fridge mount: https://www.cnx-software.com/2026/07/31/reterminal-sticky-3-...

I'd actually love something like the reTerminal sticky, but larger, for a fridge mounted home automation dashboard / calendar.

ge96

Tangent but I was surprised latest Kindles followed the form factor of Remarkable 2

dmitrygr

I was just thinking that I could port rePalm to it. But for now I only support arm mips Riscv and aarch64. I guess maybe time for an LX7 port

rsync

So many of these M5Stack products are not actually stackable and have no physical relation to their "stack" system.

  • clumsysmurf

    Ya, I noticed that with the CoreS3-SE being incompatible with the "Extension Port Module for Core2" (M123). I don't see a version compatible with the CoreS3.

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