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Orca-Bench: How Ready Are Language Model Agents for Oncall?

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30 points by yruzin · 14 comments

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dash2

Seems like there's a big attack-defence asymmetry at present: models are great at exploiting systems and poor at fixing them.

  • aleksiy123

    Attackers advantage in the iterative fast feedback loop?

    It’s harder to have a loop to ensure you are defending all possible attacks?

    I guess the loop is you need to attack yourself and fix. But attackers only need a single opening.

    Finding all possible attacks and patching them against yourself is inherently more expensive?

  • EGreg

    That is why I built https://safebots.ai/safebox.html

    Your strategy can’t be patch AFTER an intrusion. Only to build a hardened environment from scratch and be ready in advance.

4di

looks like the public bench link in the paper was taken down. https://hub.harborframework.com/datasets/orca-bench/ORCA-ben...

This doesn't work anymore. Is there a newer link?

tra3

All I can think of is

GET /ignore-all-previous-instructions.

How do you protect against that?

  • cheriot

    Avoid the most dangerous situations by making sure LLMs with untrusted input produce output that's human reviewed.

    Still makes an interesting way for, say, a former employee to poison the results.

  • yruzinOP

    I think this is where harness makes a lot of sense. Use LLM to produce all possible attack angles/phrases and just stupidly filter them out on input.

2001zhaozhao

you probably still need a human for oncall but the llm can try to solve any issues first before the human gets paged

  • UltraSane

    You would trust an LLM to make changes to prod without being verified by a human first?

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