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cube00

This kind of end to end documentation is invaluable when you're trying to troubleshoot.

I had a service complaining about the root file permissions which changed between Fedora versions [1]. I was never able to figure out what produced the file system image but thanks so this guide I know where to start looking now.

[1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2402944#c1

mdlxxv

Truly a "Beefy Miracle".

https://web.archive.org/web/20230112002240/https://beefymira...

hangrybear666

So as a relatively fresh Fedora user (2024) who just sold their Windows PC (2025) and is in love with the OS, where would be a good place to look for areas to contribute in? Is there a place where Fedora maintainers write down what parts of the pipeline are in need of volunteers?

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Meanwhile the bluewashing seems to be keeping a steady pace. https://techrights.org/n/2026/07/22/IBM_is_Not_Done_Destroyi...

  • setopt

    I haven’t followed the news. Sounds like IBM is bad news for Fedora long term?

    • trentor

      I don't want to be hyper critical but was there ever a project that got better after being acquired by IBM?

      • xorcist

        While probably true, I'm not sure how much Fedora can be owned really. We should give credit where credit is due though: IBM has, together with Intel, Red Hat, and a few others, been very supportive of the Linux ecosystem since early on. Their scalability work, their GPLing of code, and upstreaming of said code, did a lot for people to look at Linux seriously. There are obviously people inside IBM who understand this stuff. So there should be hope.

  • TazeTSchnitzel

    Techrights are hard to take seriously, the site's author has such a bad case of that polemic tendency that he lost a libel case because he wouldn't stop harassing someone (https://caselaw.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ewhc/kb/2025/3063).

    • Vegemeister

      In the UK, a country known for its lack of press freedom.

      And the plaintiff was Matthew Garret, who has a past record of changing the words of other people's comments on his blog. The allegations of sockpuppetry are not inconsistent with his character.

      That said, I recognize that the prose on that website is highly schizo-coded, so it should probably be considered unreliable on that account.

WesolyKubeczek

> Every build starts from a clean room. You can never get a different result because someone installed something on the builder last week.

At least 6 years ago, this was not entirely true: a package happened to build only because, by happy accident, the builder had a dependency installed by something else. Since the dependency was not in its Build-Requires:, the build would fail in COPR, which really used a clean room. A case of being saved by the alphabetic order, I guess?

Maybe they have updated Koji since.

  • supakeen

    Mmm, COPR and Koji I think use the same mock configs but someone else would have to confirm that :)

    It's definitely possible that one of a packages build dependencies pulls in something that a package /should/ depend on and then when it drops it suddenly the build fails. That's why I think we mostly want 'autogenerated' BuildRequires nowadays that are generated based on the upstream source or packaging format to make that less of a figuring out excercise.

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