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Ask HN: How do you make AI writing usable?

4 points by david_shi 12 days ago · 7 comments · 1 min read


Every time I ask the latest models to write something, it defaults to LLMisms like contrastive negation and long unnecessary lists.

Is there a way to desloppify AI writing, or is this just the new status quo?

bloomfieldj 12 days ago

This is a helpful resource your AI can reference, though each model has its own inherent style and preferences: https://tropes.fyi/tropes-md

  • david_shiOP 12 days ago

    Ah this is very helpful. I've been pointing out things that the model does, labeling it, and then adding them into a skill.

    The models (Opus, etc) are very good at labeling the pattern when I point it out, but if I don't prompt it beforehand it responds like a host from Westworld.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTZ6Lvh5gL4

verdverm 12 days ago

Instead of having it do the writing, use it as an assistant (research, sample text) and then pick good parts and write it yourself. Examples of your/good writing are indispensable

Depends on who you are writing for too

  • david_shiOP 12 days ago

    Yeah. I'm realizing that the models are strong at drafting the overall shape of the writing but the specific phrases are grating once you've seen it hundreds of time in slop.

    • verdverm 11 days ago

      There is some advice that goes something like "read more to get better at writing"

codemax98 12 days ago

Models follow examples far better than instructions. "Write like this:" with examples

  • david_shiOP 12 days ago

    Even with the examples, I've found that explicitly pointing out what not to do is moderately helpful if the model is given some time to self-evaluate. I wish this was something that came out of the box though.

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