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Magenta RealTime 2: Open and Local Live Music Models

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67 points by selvan · 12 comments

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v9v

Finally an auto-accompanist to rival Band-in-a-Box? https://www.bandinabox.com/

  • peatmoss

    Everyone I know who is a casual jazz musician / student uses iReal Pro for practicing soloing. It does an okay job. The styles are mediocre and mechanical, and not as good as Band-in-a-Box or as rich as JJazzLab with its ability to plug in Yamaha styles.

    I also own 4 editions of a new entrant called "Quartet" that uses carefully recorded, individually tracked, time annotated recordings of jazz standards by a real band. Solo sections can be repeated an arbitrary number of times and within fairly constrained limits tunes can be transposed, sped up, or slowed down. Of course the more you stretch or pitch bend the recordings, the more it sounds like garbage.

    Something like iReal Pro, where you can key in your chord changes, configure repeats, specify instrumentation, etc. but generate high quality backing would be almost a holy grail for musicians' solo practice.

    I also imagine this kind of thing would be a near perfect case to demonstrate "neurosymbolic AI". Backing tracks are constrained by actual constraints, not vibes. Suno does some impressive things, but was useless in my experience for trying to create a backing track.

    "iReal, but with AI-generated backing band" is an idea I've even considered trying to build, but honestly I'd be just as happy to buy this app (or contribute to an open source version). Someone build this!

  • archerx

    That’s probably one of the worst website designs I’ve seen in a very long time.

selvanOP

Feature demo videos: https://magenta.withgoogle.com/mrt2

  • thenthenthen

    Ironically no sound here on ios

    • rustcleaner

      Very very poor format support on Apple devices. I have this problem when re-encoding videos for re-upload to Discord, SimpleX, and other destinations which have iOS users.

      Only fix seems to be ditching Apple. I can only recommend GrapheneOS for [Pixel] phones (never Samsung), and a favorite flavor of GNU/Linux for general purpose (me: Qubes OS). Apple wants to sell a beautiful but limited walled garden, for a premium price... not worth it!

      • ZekeSulastin

        What are you possibly encoding for social media that doesn’t work on iOS?

        Also the project in the original link is Mac only (hence the irony), so evangelizing Graphene and Qubes seems a lot out of left field.

      • mingus88

        This is such an insane take.

        You are creating content to share with mobile users. The onus is on you to go where the market is to reach those people.

        Pixel phones are 4% of the market and bespoke Linux versions of that are a slim fraction of that slim fraction.

        Most people are fine with the tradeoff of living in a walled garden and not playing unsupported formats. As a content creator who obviously wants to reach them, the problem is not the users.

selvanOP

Build and play AI musical instruments on your laptop!. It is a live, interactive model that you can control with MIDI and audio, in addition to text.

josefrichter

Magenta? Brand clash with T-mobile incoming.

k7peak

I don't get it.

hrnnnnnn

Seems to be MacOS only.

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