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Staged publishing and new install-time controls for npm

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61 points by brianmcnulty 3 months ago · 16 comments

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supriyo-biswas 2 months ago

Is any form of code analysis out of the question? Static and dynamic analysis of the code would seem like a promising idea rather than just trying to defer the update and hence the problem.

weinzierl 2 months ago

Seen favorably, staged publishing is a band aid. Seen more realistically I believe that in the long run it will even hurt our efforts for more secure infra.

  • buildfocus 2 months ago

    How could it possibly hurt?

    For trusted publishing, it's not a band-aid, it's a significant improvement that kills an entire class of CI takeover publish attacks. I'm sure attackers will find another way but it's a big gap this is closing up.

koinedad 2 months ago

Nice…maybe will help some of the recent attacks

  • turkeyboi 2 months ago

    If maintainers actually use it

    • Klaster_1 2 months ago

      This is the biggest question I also had after reading the blog post. Given the recent chain of attacks, wouldn't it make sense to enforce staged publish by default or at least gradually move over to it?

madarco 2 months ago

meanwhile pnpm 10.x by default won't donwload packages younger than a day

  • stabbles 2 months ago

    Is one day enough to find vulnerabilities? Who keeps an eye on new releases? Otherwise the problem continues to exist, just delayed by one day.

    • captn3m0 2 months ago

      There’s almost a dozen cybersecurity companies scanning NPM publishes in real-time and analysing them.

  • jamietanna 2 months ago

    *11.x

warmwaffles 2 months ago

Perfect, now we'll start seeing people automate auto publishing because they don't want to explicitly push a button to publish it.

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