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Urban birds are more scared of women than men – but scientists don't know why

independent.co.uk

10 points by milchek 2 months ago · 16 comments

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kaikai 2 months ago

I wonder if this is due to relative vigilance of men and women. This study observed that women tend to scan their environment much more than men: https://news.byu.edu/intellect/study-visually-captures-hard-...

I’ve observed that animals are pretty good at reading body language and can tell when they’re actually being seen by, rather than just sharing space with, a human.

  • apothegm 2 months ago

    Birds also tend to be reactive to forward facing pairs of eyes (because raptors, especially owls), so that would make sense.

    Beyond that, women are on average more likely to wear clothing or hair that flaps around. Or heels that make loud noises when they walk.

nephihaha 2 months ago

I'm wondering if there is some other variable in here. Is it clothing or hair length? Would men with long hair be more intimidating than women with short hair for example? How about certain types of clothing or footwear. Very odd.

The seagulls near me can recognise school children. They know they are more likely to pick up dropped food.

  • Rury 2 months ago

    They did control for obvious appearance differences (e.g. color & type of clothing, hair length) and morphology (e.g. height/body size), even people's approach. But not more subtle traits such as gait, waist-hip ratio, odor...

    One hypothesis suggested that in early history, women may have more commonly caught smaller prey (birds) than men did, and this fear could be evolutionarily ingrained.

    • nephihaha 2 months ago

      To be fair, I don't think most birds have a good sense of smell (as dogs, cats, deer etc have) so that would discount odour. I suspect if there is a factor here it may be something that is obvious to the birds.

      • Rury 2 months ago

        Odor was an example given by the researchers. And I too doubt it's due to odor, but we can't dismiss odor outright just because it seems reasonable. I mean humans for example are known to have an overall worse sense of smell than dogs, but can actually detect certain specific odors/chemicals at much lower thresholds than dogs (such as amyl acetate). Which is to say, birds may possess an acute sense of smell to certain things that we may not know of yet, even if they're bad in general when it comes to smells.

        Another hypothesis given is sunscreen. If women wear sunscreen more often (such as on their face) and sunscreen reflects UV (and birds can see in the UV spectrum), then that could also explain it.

recursivecaveat 2 months ago

I wonder if spreading breadcrumbs is a more popular hobby among men than women?

Lapsa 2 months ago

do they know why men are scared?

AuthAuth 2 months ago

me to urban birds, me to

lobito25 2 months ago

They know...

adampunk 2 months ago

It’s cats lol.

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