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HarfBuzz Slug Support with WebGL

harfbuzz.github.io

29 points by mcraiha a month ago · 8 comments

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notachatbot123 a month ago

HarfBuzz = text shaping engine, https://github.com/harfbuzz/harfbuzz

Slug = Formely patented font rendering algorithm for GPUs, freed 2 weeks ago https://terathon.com/blog/decade-slug.html

tikimcfee a month ago

Very cool. I've noticed slug popping up more often on HN and I've been thinking of finding a way to incorporate it into my project as well.

Is this yours? What's your rendering system like - anything novel or fun you run into when working with text and GPU parallelism?

jasonjmcghee a month ago

Note to author: the WebGL has great zoom settings, but WebGPU has different ones that feel very low-sensitivity (at least on trackpad on macos)

eviks a month ago

Are there good explanations/demos comparing this to msdf?

  • amitp 20 days ago

    Slug preserves the vector shapes. MSDF first converts to a texture, which can lose small details. How much depends on the size of your texture and the complexity of the font. I expect MSDF will never look better than Slug.

    However, MSDF can handle lots of distance-based effects (glow, shadow, outline, gradient, etc.)[1], and I don't think Slug does that. And MSDF is constant time whereas (I think) Slug is going to vary depending on the complexity of the font.

    The Slug paper [2] says:

      All of the techniques that store data in a texture atlas are inherently using a discrete
      sampling of what is actually an infinitely precise description of a glyph outline. This
      inescapably leads to limitations that can be mitigated by increasing the resolution of
      the texture atlas, but that can never be completely removed. For applications that
      need to render a wide range of characters at potentially large font sizes, a texture atlas
      capable of producing glyphs at an acceptable level of quality may have prohibitively
      large storage requirements.
    
    [1] https://www.redblobgames.com/articles/sdf-fonts/#demo

    [2] https://jcgt.org/published/0006/02/02/

  • behdad 25 days ago

    msdf still suffers from detail loss at large sizes, which this method doesn't have.

    • eviks 25 days ago

      Thanks, how large of a size? And at lower sizes, what's the performance/quality like? Is this the silver bullet?

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