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Ask HN: What's the long-term future of online human discussion?

3 points by SsgMshdPotatoes 2 months ago · 8 comments · 1 min read


I'm just curious about the best takes on this: do you see any way in which human discussion forums like HN survive in the long term? How, and by the way, what would be a good measure of success (because there is a whole spectrum of AI influence: AI shaping beliefs of participants, users letting AI write exact posts/comments, users letting AI only reformat posts/comments, etc)?

marysminefnuf 2 months ago

every substack link I clicked on from hn this morning was ai generated. ai photo and text lol. that means when we comment on those posts we are commenting on someones prompting and not that persons original thoughts. there needs to be a zero ai tag we can filter so I dont have to consume ai gen content. its getting ridiculous

9rx 2 months ago

The same as the past? The medium is the message. AI doesn't change the medium.

  • SsgMshdPotatoesOP 2 months ago

    Maybe I could've worded it a bit better, the question is not whether forums such as HN will continue to exist, but whether/how it is possible to keep them "human", and also what appropriate definitions of that could be.

    • 9rx 2 months ago

      Online discussion forums have never been "human". You can rightfully point out that in the past human operators were required to keep the software operational as an implementation detail, and that we may be reaching a point where they are no longer an implementation need, but it is just that: An implementation detail. An alternative implementation does not really change anything. The medium is the message.

      • SsgMshdPotatoesOP 2 months ago

        I guess the question body wasn't clear enough, because that's not what I meant. My bad if so - I just rephrased the part in parentheses to make it clearer.

        • 9rx 2 months ago

          I do not find a lack of clarity, but rather a misunderstanding of the medium. Human discussion takes place where you find humans. Online discussion forums are not human, but rather software. The entire appeal is that it isn't "human". It is something else entirely. A change in how the "black box" is implemented under the hood does not alter the medium itself.

          • SsgMshdPotatoesOP 2 months ago

            "The entire appeal is that it isn't "human"" - yes, part of the appeal is perhaps that the medium isn't human, but also that the message IS still human, right? And that is the combination I'm talking about.

            • 9rx 2 months ago

              If the medium isn't human then the message cannot be human. The medium is the message.

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