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Coral NPU: A full-stack platform for Edge AI

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146 points by LER0ever 2 months ago · 29 comments

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yurimo 2 months ago

I'm guessing you can still find Coral TPU-based boards somewhere but not sure what the support for these will be now that the focus is shifting. Coral TPU also uses subset of tensorflow and its nice to see that the open standard is targeting jax and torch.

When I went to see if anyone is selling the boards or their "Partners" page regarding manufacturing design I got 404 even after signing in: https://developers.google.com/coral/guides/coral/resource

LER0everOP 2 months ago

Also seems the core hardware was open-sourced? Github: https://github.com/google-coral/coralnpu

babl-yc 2 months ago

Will be interested to see what their developer kit looks like when (and if) they release it.

I've been experimenting with the BeagleY-AI to build a little edge AI gizmo with a camera (Texas Insturments SoC + 4 TOPS NPU in RPi 5 form factor)

https://docs.beagleboard.org/boards/beagley/ai/demos/using-e...

  • metadat 2 months ago

    That's cool, any success stories, challenges or other feedback you can share?

    I've only heard of people using Coral PCIe / USB for edge image AI processing tasks like classifying subjects in a stream. Curious if you have the same use case or something different!

    • babl-yc 2 months ago

      I'm trying to make a DIY security camera that can run local models, and stream video over wifi.

      The TI SDK makes it easy to run demos but making any custom apps quickly gets complicated unless you are familiar with embedded Linux dev, Yocto, etc. Certainly much more complex than iOS/Android.

      Hopefully over time the tools for embedded can catch up to mobile.

fulafel 2 months ago

This seems cool:

> Hardware-enforced privacy

> A core principle of Coral NPU is building user trust through hardware-enforced security. Our architecture is being designed to support emerging technologies like CHERI, which provides fine-grained memory-level safety and scalable software compartmentalization. With this approach, we hope to enable sensitive AI models and personal data to be isolated in a hardware-enforced sandbox, mitigating memory-based attacks.

jononor 2 months ago

It seems here that Google provides the core IP, and that Synaptic packages this (and probably other related IP blocks) block that can be used to build a SoC. As of now there are no chips announced. So it will be some years before we as software/electronics engineers get to play with it.

The architecture seems to be RISC-V array with standard RVV vector instruction set. That is a quite familiar environment for software developers compared to custom systolic arrays.

bogwog 2 months ago

Didn't they abandon the previous Coral accelerators?

  • _fuchs 2 months ago

    Pretty much. They used to be „plug and play“ but running them with modern tensorflow is a huge pain

  • ReadEvalPost 2 months ago

    They aged out of being competitive against SoC NPUs. This is ultimately the successor to that.

    • ssl-3 2 months ago

      Does "it aged out of being competitive" mean the same thing as "they abandoned it," or does it mean something else?

mark_l_watson 2 months ago

This seems like important work and at first I wondered what this does for Google's bottom line. However reading about the simulator for software dev and the hardware kits, Google is aiming to win the AI glasses, etc. edge wars. All makes sense.

jmward01 2 months ago

Google's track record of suddenly dropping something they have developed and their stellar record on privacy make me pretty wary of this. I would like something like it, but Google as the champion just doesn't give me confidence.

fabmilo 2 months ago

How much would cost to produce these ?

dankle 2 months ago

Price?

webdevver 2 months ago

is hardware still squirrelled away behind mega paywalls of one or two companies holding all the EDA software?

someone at ycombinator should create a "github for silicon IP" company. that would be awesome.

pjmlp 2 months ago

Interesting that in 2025 they only provide C compiler support as building tool, who cares about security in AI systems.

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