Spotify users ask for a setting to hide AI generated contents but they refuse
community.spotify.comThis is a poorly titled HN submission. This isn't what's happened, if you read the post - A user asked about being able to do this. Spotify claimed it isn't currently a feature, however they have a feature request that the requester can add their voice to if so inclined.
Sure sure, they haven't refused it at all, the feature request has more than 7 months and they just haven't read it yet, you people I swear.
Also: the answer marked as a solution that says it's not a feature is not even from a Spotify employee.
So the better solution is to set up Navidrome, "acquire" 1TB of music. Look for discographies, top 10k, stuff you like. Use a reverse proxy to a cheap VPS or Cloudflare. (Ssh port forward from Navidrome to VPS 127.0.0.1, and have nginx handle reverse proxy. Put it in systemd unit to autoreconnect)
Then you can listen to whatever you want.
Im all for paying for good content or service. But I quit paying for companies to abuse me.
> But I quit paying for companies to abuse me.
Seems like a stretch, no? How are streaming music companies abusing users?
I have abandoned spotify - but I agree in that I think the experience is still pretty great for users.
There are other warts though:
- They're paying out the lowest to artists by far when it comes to streams
- Artist impersonation issues
- Botted playlists
- Daniel Ek investing his fortune into AI drone military defense company Helsing
- The nascent issue of AI music / artists (see The Velvet Sundown)
For me it is moreso that all of this adds up to artists getting the squeeze, and I'd rather try to find ways to better support them.
Maybe not abusing strictly speaking but...
- The entire SOTA ML algo is 'how to min(cost) while just avoiding churn' - not play what you actually want. Just don't annoy you enough that you quit
- This means serving endless covers of hit (real) songs that cost them pennies on the dollar given cover artists don't get custom negotiated deals
- This means producing their own drivel in key categories[1] to avoid royalty payments outright
- It is not a huge leap from producing drivel to producing genAI drivel if it satisfies the equation above
[1] - https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/spotify-is-creating-i...
Raising rates.
AI slop music.
Reducing library.
Removing artists.
Its the standard enshittification playbook.
I am not affiliated with Spotify, but I pay for their services.
They very infrequently raise their rates, and I feel like I'm paying an acceptable rate.
I have yet to notice AI generated music infiltrating my feeds.
I rarely encounter them removing an artist I can't listen to.
I may be rare, but I just don't see the problems you're raising.
Big chunk of artists don't earn enough to make a living as artists from Spotify or streaming services. You can search this online, it's well known and reported.
Yeah or I could just use Apple Music or Tidal or any other competing services
Is there any precedent for this in Spotify? Can I tell it to hide all country music or all music by German artists?
Sounds about right. I was a massive Spotify fan when I signed up in 2008, but that has cooled significantly as time has gone on.
It’s a textbook Feature Factory [1].
I don’t think anybody asked for all the features they have crammed in, right up to the point where it’s playing videos like a wannabe YouTube client.
When I know my machine is going to need CPU resources and I don’t want to work with the sound of the fan, I load up a lightweight FLAC player instead.
[1] …a term that is apparently annoying to Agile enthusiasts… Good!
HN title is incorrect and clickbait.
Spotify hasn't refused at all. They don't say anything, but a non-employee specifically links to a page where people can upvote the idea to help get it implemented.
Flagged because there is nothing of value for HN here, this is just a random feature request.
Sure sure, they haven't refused at all, the feature request has more than 7 months and but they just haven't read it, you people I swear.
Spotify has probably thousands of feature requests that have been up on their forums for years, that they haven't given an official response to.
That's just how product forums work.
Unlikely that is the case with this particular feature, its a feature request with near 2000 upvotes and more than 340 comments, plus a very hot topic in recent months.
Is it possible to accurately identify "AI generated" songs? Or do they have to be labeled?
I think with stem separation,you could potentially train a model. But the latest Suno is really good. You can still kind of "hear" it. I had a song come into my playlist. "The Dad Bods Pop Punk". I have a keen ear, and I listened to the song a couple of times when I realized it. When I went to the artist it was a bunch of AI-generated pictures and listening to the other ones it's clear it's AI.
Youtube is being overloaded by such playlists. They become obvious after listening to them for a bit. There is something jarring in them which makes them kinda annoying.
Just wait until the current generation, who are growing up on this type of music, prefer it.
I shudder.
The real question is why does Spotify allow "AI" generated music? Did any of the paying customers ask for it?
I really hate the constant nagging to use AI, I really wish I could just block it. I don't care how useful it is, I don't care about excuses of not using the service, I want some way to block all of it.