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441 points by jalict 7 months ago · 134 comments

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kej 7 months ago

To save the next person a few clicks, these are Android apps forked from the Simple Mobile Tools collection when that was sold to ZipoApps.

  • agile-gift0262 7 months ago

    I used to use many apps from Simple Mobile Tools and migrated to Fossify's forks when the whole acquisition thing happened. I just went back to check the Simple Mobile Tools to see the effect form ZipooApps' acquisition [1]. What a calamity. Most of them require way more permissions than they used to before the purchase, have trackers, ads and scam-feeling weekly subscriptions. Also probably in breach of the GPL licence they used to have, unless they have removed all the code contributed by third parties, as their GitHub [2] hasn't been updated, but the apps in the Play Store clearly have. And I seriously doubt they distribute the source code in any other way.

    1: https://play.google.com/store/apps/dev?id=821434617619498026...

    2: https://github.com/SimpleMobileTools

    • squigz 7 months ago

      WEEKLY subscriptions?!

      • kej 7 months ago

        I just checked, and according to the reviews on the flashlight app the weekly subscription is $14.99 to remove ads. For a flashlight.

        • emaro 7 months ago

          That's so unhinged it's almost funny again. I mean someone who pays 60$ a month for a flashlight app almost deserves it. Almost.

          • agile-gift0262 7 months ago

            I assume they trick people with dark patterns and free trials so that they don't even know they are susbcribing or what's the price

    • extraduder_ire 7 months ago

      Was there any setup required after switching to the forked version? There's a lot of settings I've tweaked in the SMT apps over time, and I'm sure I'd miss some if I migrated over.

      • em-bee 7 months ago

        they are new apps with a different name, so i don't think they would be able to access to existing settings unless there is an export/import feature.

        but given that SMT apps are now effectively malware you really should switch anyways.

        • extraduder_ire 7 months ago

          I've always used the ones from fdroid, so the only change I noticed was them not getting updates anymore.

    • raaron773 7 months ago

      I switched to Goodwy. Granted they arent the best since they lock a lot of basic features behind paywall it does the job and their themes are actually decent and feel modern considering they use Material.

  • 77pt77 7 months ago

    Thanks.

    Simple Mobile Gallery was removed from Fdroid so I wasn't getting updates.

    Migrated to this.

    The recorder app sucks though, which is a shame.

    • jimjimwii 7 months ago

      Agreed. I was surprised of how bad it was compared to their other apps (their calendar app). The recordings are faint/muted and it seems to have reliability issues.

      Luckily there are quality options to choose from on fdroid.

      • 77pt77 7 months ago

        Any recommendations?

        I need opus at low bitrates that works in the background and haven't foud anything that really works for me on fdroid.

  • shellwizard 7 months ago

    Thanks mate

solstice 7 months ago

I use them and like them. One thing to be aware of with the dialer (that might not be unique to Fossify): when dialing the number of an emergency service (like 112 in Germany), there is no indication in the app's UI that something is happening and it looks as if the call failed and you will be back looking at the dial pad, even though the call will eventually be connected. The reason is that these types of calls get handled by something deeper in the Android system and will show up neither in the "calling" UI of the dialer nor in the list of calls.

  • komali2 7 months ago

    My phone crashing when I dialed 911 after a car accident was the reason I stopped messing around with android roots and custom roms and whatnot. When it comes to my phone being a phone, I need it to Just Work(tm)!

    • justinrubek 7 months ago

      My personal motivation for doing these things is precisely because the device doesn't just work™ out of the box. If it was sufficient at its job, such hacks would not be required. It's because it isn't that they are reached for.

      Yes, the current trade-off seems to be that stuff like that can break. That isn't the desired state, but it is what was prescribed by the manufacturer who seemingly has an interest in making the device less functional than it could be.

    • superb_dev 7 months ago

      I wish there was an easy way for the layperson to test dial emergency services without connecting to a real operator.

      Maybe a different 3 digit number that goes through all the same hoops as 911 but it answers with an automated success message then hangs up.

      • sudobash1 7 months ago

        Actually there is. You just have to schedule it. I keep meaning to do this with my home VOIP phone.

        > Test calls confirm that your local 911 service can receive your 911 call and has the correct location information. Test calls can be scheduled by contacting your local 911 call center via its non-emergency phone number.

        https://www.911.gov/calling-911/frequently-asked-questions/

        • superb_dev 7 months ago

          Oh this is excellent to hear! I’ll have to remember this if I ever dive into voip again

    • SubzeroCarnage 7 months ago

      Back when I was developing my DivestOS project, test calling 911 was actually a thing I tried to do each month for this reason.

      There was one time where I did ship an update that broke select calls but I had it fixed on all devices in under 24 hours.

    • m463 7 months ago

      don't know android, but ios does a lot of unspecified things during 911.

      For example I have location services turned off, but a picture I took while on hold with 911 showed up in my camera roll with full location information. I suspect every app gets full precise location information during 911 (which sort of makes sense in a life-or-death situation)

      I wouldn't be surprised if other stuff is affected, like networking/vpn, microphone, etc

    • creshal 7 months ago

      Don't worry, that can happen on a stock Pixel phone too. Nobody in the Android ecosystem really cares about reliability.

    • solstice 7 months ago

      damn, that sucks. I fully agree with the sentiment of your last sentence.

account-5 7 months ago

Annoyingly brilliant apps, used the old ones before they were sold off, now use these. If only there was other androi apps like this set for other things. Instead the vast majority of the shit (in the truest sense of the word) you get from play store is pretty much akin to malware but definitely spyware.

  • mcv 7 months ago

    It's nearly impossible to find good, honest apps on the play store anymore. Everything is loaded with ads, in-app purchases, spyware, and wants way more permissions than it needs. Google is making it more and more attractive to completely sever the ties to the play store. Although there are a few things I still want from there.

    • genpfault 7 months ago
    • jcynix 7 months ago

      Try the app Netguard which implements a nice firewall. I use it to disallow most apps network access with it. Some apps may be allowed to access the net when I'm on Wifi, but not when roaming. Netguard allows you to distinguish between Wifi and Roaming. And you can enable a protocol to check which connections are attempted if you want to to specifically disable certain targets.

      Disclaimer: just a satisfied and paying customer.

      • Paradigm2020 7 months ago

        Anyway to get net guard to work in combination with a VPN client (using wire guard )? (Using mullvad & mullvads client and can't get and netguard & mullvad to run at same time)

        • dongcarl 7 months ago

          You may want to try using a generic WireGuard client (e.g. `wg-quick`) rather than Mullvad's client, you can generate a WireGuard config on Mullvad's website.

    • dspillett 7 months ago

      > It's nearly impossible to find good, honest apps on the play store anymore.

      The process of getting things into the app store can be a faf, an app maker who isn't making money off it is far less likely to bother than an app maker happy to flog your personal data for a few pennies, because the latter might make enough money to make it worth the effort.

    • n_plus_1_acc 7 months ago

      I use aurora store to filter for ads and trackers

reify 7 months ago

I use quite a few of the fossify apps.

love the calculator. with length, area, volume, mass, temperature and time calculations.

the gallery app. I like the renaming and proper deleting. easily remove exif metadata

non intrusive calender. I use it to set up my plant watering schedule.

messages, clear and easy to use

voice recorder, again simple and easy to use

All with absolutely minimal permissions..

NO ADS, no tracking, no data collecting

  • extraduder_ire 7 months ago

    I switched to their contacts app after learning it could store contacts without exposing them to other apps with the contacts permission. (you can select where to store each contact and set a default)

    • em-bee 7 months ago

      interesting. i was not aware of that. there are three options: device, phone storage, and phone storage (not visible to other apps). the last one will show contacts only to other fossify apps.

  • mcv 7 months ago

    I'm very happy with their galley and messaging app. They're absolutely perfect.

    I think I also have their launcher, but it regularly seems to lose my widgets. No idea why that's happening, but I clearly need to shop around a bit more. Or debug the issue?

    I tried their keyboard, which is fine, but not quite what I'm looking for. I'm currently back to GBoard and unhappy with it. I need something that doesn't try to accidentally insert emojis everywhere.

kissgyorgy 7 months ago

The apps are so simple, so clear, no fuss, no ads, no nothing. Just the functionality you need from every app. Excellent work!

This is the only project I immediately "donated" with the Thank You app.

  • tigrezno 7 months ago

    Me too, but I hate having the useless Thank You app installed

    • prmoustache 7 months ago

      You can donate, remove the thank you app and use the f-droid versions.

    • WillAdams 7 months ago

      My phone came w/ a folder for apps from my service provider and I've been adding to it any apps which I don't interact with regularly (since I've been able to keep my apps down to a single screen so I don't have to scroll).

      • entropie 7 months ago

        You can uninstall them via adb. For Example there are different "unbloat your samsung device" github pages which give you a list of apps you can safely remove.

        • Tijdreiziger 7 months ago

          Instead of needing ADB, you can also go into Settings > Apps, turn on ‘show system apps’, and disable the ones you don’t want from there.

      • porridgeraisin 7 months ago

        Yep, I had a crap folder for apps too. Until I switched to using T-UI as my launcher. Now I can only ever launch the apps I remember in my head since I need to type it out.

__rito__ 7 months ago

After my smartphone vendor's SMS app, and Google Messages both started serving me non-stop loans ads and gambling ads (never gambled ever in my life), I switched to Fossify Messages, and it has been going great for me. Never looked back.

  • sp0rk 7 months ago

    Where are ads displayed in your Google Messages? I have never seen any ads and I struggle to even imagine where they would place an ad within its interface.

  • chrismorgan 7 months ago

    And the whole lot bypasses your actual telco, so when you’re on your nation’s do-not-call register, you can’t even file a proper complaint, there isn’t even a number to report.

    There is a solution even without changing app: disable RCS. Everything real is fine with SMS, so ads are the only casualty. I wonder if this stupidity helps kill the already-struggling RCS.

    • __rito__ 7 months ago

      Only things I use SMS for are purely utility: OTP, CC spend notice, bill payment, insurance premium, etc.

      Only time I need SMS, i.e. when a family member or a friend travels to a remote area, internet, and hence, RCS don't work anyway. So, I had to switch to good old SMS. Since I deleted all RCS stuff, I use Signal/WApp/Telegram 99.99% of the times, and good old SMS for the rest of the situations.

heybrendan 7 months ago

How some of the developer community responded (in late 2023) when SMT was bought by ZipoApps--Fossify was a fork that emerged:

- https://github.com/SimpleMobileTools/General-Discussion/issu...

encom 7 months ago

Was recommended the calendar app by a colleague recently, after I complained about how crap the FastMail app is. So far I like it a lot. Does exactly what I need, and nothing more. Together with FairEmail, I can finally purge FastMail from my phone. (I like FastMail as a mail host, just not their app)

  • globular-toast 7 months ago

    Another calendar app, developed in 2025, that uses the ridiculous and antiquated "month" view.

    • encom 7 months ago

      I like the month view. This is for my personal calendar, and I'm not so busy that I need a narrower view. Month view is nice for seeing what's coming up in the near future. However, you can set the calendar to whatever view you want.

      • globular-toast 7 months ago

        You can't see what's coming up in the future if it's the last week of the month. But, hey, you can see three weeks into the past! So useful.

        • em-bee 7 months ago

          you should have led with that. do you know any FOSS calendar app for android that shows 4 weeks into the future?

    • coldtea 7 months ago

      "antiquated" or "ridiculous" sounds like, err, your opinion, man.

      Many people prefer the month view.

    • hans_castorp 7 months ago

      If you don't like the monthly view, choose one of the other views.

      I actually like the Monthly + Daily.

    • basemi 7 months ago

      "Month view" is useful when I need a wide view on a specific month.

    • tigrezno 7 months ago

      I also use the monthly view

    • Saris 7 months ago

      That's the only view I use. How on earth is it 'antiquated' lol

      • globular-toast 7 months ago

        It's based on a paper calendar that you would hang up on the wall. You know, from before we had screens about 50 years ago.

        • Saris 7 months ago

          Month view is the most useful for me since I can easily see what's coming up, and on what day by where it lies on the calendar grid.

          Agenga view is not as useful for me because it doesn't allow quickly scanning events and knowing what is 1 week out, 2 weeks out, etc without stopping and thinking about the dates. Week based views don't show far enough ahead.

          I find it amusing and strange that you dislike the view so much you think it should be removed from calendar apps, instead of just switching to a view you like in settings.

          • globular-toast 7 months ago

            You can't see what's coming up if it's the last week of the month.

            It's funny how people just can't imagine any other view than the ones all calendar apps have had for the past 30+ years. The only one to do it remotely correct is Apple.

            • em-bee 7 months ago

              apples calendar only shows you a dot on a day with events. if you have events every day that's pretty useless.

              e/OS/ has a calendar app that allows seamless scrolling so that you can easily get a view with the current week at the top. and it shows events in a way that you can actually tell whats going on. it's not fossify, but way better than apples...

            • barbs 7 months ago

              I don't think there is one "remotely correct" way to do it, it's a matter of preference.

            • Saris 7 months ago

              If you flip to the next month it shows the last 5 days or so of the last month as well.

degif 7 months ago

Genuine question – do Android people get ads in their OS default camera, calculator, calendar, phone, file-manager or SMS messaging applications? Or do have these Fossify application some extra privacy features that do not come with the default ones?

  • kotaKat 7 months ago

    The default phone and SMS messaging application on all Tier 1 Android OEMs is required to be Google Phone and Google Messages. Also as such, Google stopped maintaining AOSP Dialer and AOSP Messages.

  • glenstein 7 months ago

    >Or do have these Fossify application some extra privacy features that do not come with the default ones?

    It's this one. Google's built-in apps are closed source with undisclosed telemetry. Fossify are open source, and they don't send your contacts or calendar entries to Google. Google's apps also serve Google ecosystem lock-in, and Google's ecosystem serves ads.

    The non-google options on the Play store give you the option of not sending telemetry to Google, but at the cost of typically violating privacy in other ways or including ads.

    Fossify avoids either of those costs.

  • polyaniline 7 months ago

    As far as I'm concerned, I run LineageOS, which doesn't come with everything I need OTOB, so I use app suites like Fossify, Simple Mobile Tools and other great work. Others may just want alternatives to pre-installed or standard apps that are more private and tuneable (eg. I maintained a fork of KDE Connect until they switched to Material 3 colors, and still do for VLC) because they're open source.

  • creshal 7 months ago

    I stopped using the default apps when Google was forced by EU regulations to put a privacy policy popup in the stopwatch/alarm app because of course you need spyware in that.

  • prmoustache 7 months ago

    Not having ads doesn't mean they aren't full of trackers.

  • Saris 7 months ago

    No ads on the original apps, but these do have privacy benefits, they also just don't have useless features like the AI stuff that keeps getting crammed into default apps.

  • mcv 7 months ago

    Everything Android seems to be increasingly enshittified these days.

    I switched to Fossify gallery because I don't want my photos synced with google Photos anymore. When my default Messenger suddenly demanded access to my Google account, I looked for a replacement and all alternatives I could find on Google Play had ads, so again Fossify saved me. Love it so far.

  • anty 7 months ago

    I don't see any ads on the mentioned apps on my Pixel phone.

    I do have ads in the Play Store app and in the Gmail app, though.

    • interloxia 7 months ago

      Google photos these days on my pixel constantly has various prompts to turn on their backup service.

      It is so intrusive it might as well count as an ad.

      Fortunately Aves is pretty good.

      • anty 7 months ago

        Google Photos also sometimes promotes a printing service. I forgot about that.

  • encom 7 months ago

    Pixel 8a. No ads, but I do wonder why the stock Google calculator needs a privacy policy.

  • phoronixrly 7 months ago

    Us Android people like to use open-source software. A stark contrast to Apple people.

    • rmbyrro 7 months ago

      I think many Apple users, especially people in the software industry, would prefer Apple software to be open source. It's not that they don't care, it's just that Apple quality is superior in multiple ways (hardware and software).

      And it's not a coincidence that their software is closed. They can command ridiculously high margins and continue to invest in high quality products.

      • justinrubek 7 months ago

        I think we'll just have to agree to disagree that Apple's software is superior. Their hardware would be a lot better if the software was.

        • Tijdreiziger 7 months ago

          A lot of their software is better in many ways than e.g. Samsung’s software. However, you do run into artificial limitations (e.g. no sideloading).

    • degif 7 months ago

      More power to it! I do agree on the other selling points (privacy focused and open-source) for the Fossify, just was wondering about the ads.

  • ksynwa 7 months ago

    The default sms app showed me advertisements that seemed way too sophisticated for a medium like SMS or MMS. I had to disable a setting called "RCS Chat" to rid myself of that nonsense. I am pretty sure it isn't something that Google invented or something like that though so I'm not comfortable putting the blame squarely on them for it.

    • FrequentLurker 7 months ago

      RCS is absolutely awful as it displays banner ads in your notifications. The notifications are far worse than what you get with SMS. It's the reason I turned off RCS as well.

meonkeys 7 months ago

/e/ OS installed DIY or pre-installed by Murena (especially on a Fairphone) solves many of the issues mentioned in other threads. It's an AOSP fork with a simple decent launcher and near-zero bloatware (I only chose to disable weather and magic earth maps). Built-in access to many simpler and more user-respecting apps in F-Droid. Tracker protection and other privacy features. Works well with Nextcloud if you use that.

Doesn't fit everyone's use case. No iMessage, no RCS, no visual voicemail, no spatial audio. Personally I don't need or want any of that, I just want a smartphone I can mostly control.

floppyd 7 months ago

What's strangely missing from the list of FOSS android apps is a simple "pixel-like" launcher. I have some old devices that I use for small tasks, and I'd love to install the very basic launcher on them, basically the only thing I need is a paginated grid on the desktop, a scrollable list of apps in the main app menu, and a swipe up gesture to bring this menu. I checked a lot of launchers some time ago, and all of them either go hard into "minimalism/functionalism" and don't even show icons, or go deep into customization and fail to be lightweight.

  • glenstein 7 months ago

    There is a Fossify Launcher beta on F-Droid.

    • mcv 7 months ago

      I didn't know it was in beta, but I'm using their launcher. It's mostly great, except for widgets, which it frequently loses. But I can have way more icons on my homescreen than I used to have.

    • floppyd 7 months ago

      Oh it looks absolutely perfect, thank you so much! Must've not been out yet when I was checking out different launchers

  • polyaniline 7 months ago

    Check out Lawnchair.

mrbluecoat 7 months ago

Keyboard doesn't support swipe, unfortunately: https://github.com/FossifyOrg/Keyboard/issues/94

dingdingdang 7 months ago

I love these projects, a simple way to collectively cleanly payroll a-person/persons to work on these projects would be superb. Structuring of the Zig org is a light-in-the-dark for this sort of thing!

aquir 7 months ago

Do we / can we have something like these in the Apple Ecosystem?

edvardas 7 months ago

I was tired of constant popups in stock apps for features I don't want.

Fossify apps get the job down surprisingly well, no more no less.

I use their apps for messaging, gallery, file manager, paint, contacts

jgarzik 7 months ago

Love this! I had the same idea, and was pondering funding apps like this. Was going to call it "SimpleFree" and focus on privacy, offline, mobile, games.

mcv 7 months ago

I've recently started using several Fossify apps from F-Droid, mostly because it's become impossible to find good non-enshittified apps on Google Play anymore. I don't know if Fossify is the best, but it seems to be a pretty good baseline. Although their launcher and keyboard are lacking. Still looking for something better there.

crtasm 7 months ago

I was still using an old version of Simple Tools Gallery - thanks for the reminder to try these. I will donate too.

Imustaskforhelp 7 months ago

I use fossify. its genuinely good.

devnull3 7 months ago

Is there any list of games with same focus on being ad-free? Does not have to be free.

  • tisdadd 7 months ago

    You can use f-droid game category. It will say anti-features if it has ada, but don't think many did when I loaded an older tablet for the kiddos.

  • cfiggers 7 months ago

    Pathos is a NetHack-inspired but mobile-interface-first roguelike dungeon crawler packed with features and with no ads or micro transactions.

  • Paradigm2020 7 months ago

    Polytopia, Alto's Odyssey and alto's adventure, monument valley, mindustry

guerrilla 7 months ago

Is this the suite that was originally made by Germans or is that a different one?

neiesc 7 months ago

Awesome thx!

laci37 7 months ago

This really tells a story about the sad state of android devices, that you have to use third party apps for basic stuff like the file manager to avoid spyware/adware.

  • rmbyrro 7 months ago

    I use hundreds, if not thousands, of third party software in my Linux OS and I don't think the OS is in a sad state.

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