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Chrome for Android doesn't have extensions, but Edge now has a whole store

60 points by soumikmahato 10 months ago · 59 comments · 1 min read


Microsoft edge's latest build version 134.0.3124.57, just added a whole new web-store for Android user unlike google. Extensions are great for adding a tiny bit of functionality to a browsing experience without dedicating an entire app to run in the background. For instance, some users like to use VPNs securely tied in from the browser itself rather than running the full-scale app.

13rac1 10 months ago

Firefox for Android also supports extensions, including uBlock Origin: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin...

lxgr 10 months ago

> Extensions are great for adding a tiny bit of functionality to a browsing experience without dedicating an entire app to run in the background.

And a great way to give permission to read and modify all websites you visit to something that should really better be an isolated application.

I would really not consider web extensions an alternative to standalone apps. In my security model, they inhabit the opposite corner.

> some users like to use VPNs securely tied in from the browser itself rather than running the full-scale app

This might be a mistake, for example. A VPN app runs sandboxed on mobile OSes (and many VPN types are supported by OSes natively so there's no need for an app in the first place), so it can't get access to website data (if HTTPS is used), whereas a web extension usually can.

  • xboxnolifes 10 months ago

    > And a great way to give permission to read and modify all websites you visit to something that should really better be an isolated application.

    Then don't do that. Give them permission to only read specific sites, or even no access if they don't need it.

    • lxgr 10 months ago

      If only that were possible!

      Manifest V2 doesn't even support fine-grained permissions like that (they have to statically declare all sites they ever want to access at build time, and users have to accept all of them at install time).

      Manifest V3 is better and offers a dynamic API to request more permissions on a per-site basis, but it's still not perfect – for example, Chrome presents the "proxy" permission as "read and change data on all websites", so as a user, I have no idea if a VPN extension just wants the proxy permission, or write permissions to every site I visit.

newaccountlol 10 months ago

No adblockers though. Edge for mobile does have a built-in adblocker, but there is no customizable blocklists or transparency on what is being blocked, so Microsoft could give blocklist exemptions to their own ad service while blocking Google's, for example.

account-5 10 months ago

I'll be sticking with Firefox, it has extensions and is not owned by an advertising company.

  • throw738487748 10 months ago

    Technically Mozilla is advertising company, they made a few acquisitions and have usual mission statement on website: "Mozilla is redefining digital advertising..."

    But you could argue they can make more money by selling information you upload through Firefox. They have permission to sell EVERYTHING!!!

  • CharlesW 10 months ago

    ~75% of Mozilla revenue comes from Google. Edge would be a much safer bet if you don't want a browser funded primarily with ad dollars.

    • heraldgeezer 10 months ago

      Ever opened a default install of Edge? Shows MSN news, ads, ads posing as news articles, built-in shopping discount coupons etc.

      Yes you can turn all this off, but in default mode it is maddening.

      • hoistbypetard 10 months ago

        Holy hell. I just opened one because I got a bug report about a page I maintain, and it was absolutely staggering.

        Had I not needed to specifically test Edge on Windows 11, I'd have just pressed and held the power button, then wiped the disk and installed something else if I'd encountered that experience on something I purchased to use for some non-browser-testing productive purpose.

        The funny thing is Chrome is actually made by an advertising company, and it's significantly less aggravating, somehow.

      • datavirtue 10 months ago

        The productivity loss alone is staggering.

    • lxgr 10 months ago

      Have you used Edge? It had clippable discount coupons built-in the last time I did. No thanks.

      • bmacho 10 months ago

        I am using Edge. I don't see any discount coupons. I must have clicked a "no ads pls" buttons somewhere, but now it's good.

        Speaking of adware and spyware, doesn't Firefox still have Google as its default search website? They are not Google, but literally selling you to Google, that's like even worse?

      • j_maffe 10 months ago

        You can disable that with a single button press.

        • wtallis 10 months ago

          It takes more than one click just to get to the right settings page, and there are numerous anti-features scattered across several settings pages. Cleaning up Edge is way more than one click.

    • oefnak 10 months ago

      That's insane. Edge is one big ad. Have you even ever opened it? Their home page is a tabloid.

      • bmacho 10 months ago

        It is configurable, my Edge home page is just a search bar + the weather.

      • CharlesW 10 months ago

        Fair enough, but only ~5% of Microsoft revenue comes from ad dollars. It's not clear to me why I should switch to a browser which is funded primarily with ad money vs. just turning off the Edge features I don't like. (FWIW, I used Firefox for many years, and my daily driver is currently Chrome.)

      • hoistbypetard 10 months ago

        Don't insult tabloids like that. The information content of your average tabloid is much higher.

  • zgk7iqea 10 months ago

    mozilla is an advertising company

  • datavirtue 10 months ago

    LMAO!!!

    • account-5 10 months ago

      Thought it would be good to reply to all the subs-comments from the least useful comment.

      I find it ironic that most of those defending edge's default ad infested config as ok because you can turn it off are likely the same people who'd lambast Firefox for having a lot less stuff turned on my default. I control everything in Firefox, no way anyone can say the say for edge, chrome or even safari.

heraldgeezer 10 months ago

Good for work with Office 365 and all.

But Firefox Nightly (has tabbed interface on tablet) + ublock origin is the best experience on an Android phone/tablet IMO. Not as fast as Chromium based browsers, but it is worth it for adblocking, block autoplay, extensions for youtube etc.

chasil 10 months ago

The moment that I see Edge in F-Droid, I will install it.

That would require a submission of all of the source code, so I assume this will never happen.

I would consider Edge if it showed up in FFUpdater. I don't see it there either.

  • rs186 10 months ago

    Eh, so what's the point of the comment?

    • chasil 10 months ago

      To stress that an open browser is more important than extensions on a closed browser.

      • j_maffe 10 months ago

        More important to you

        • chasil 10 months ago

          ...and to most everybody else.

          When Firefox misbehaves and claims it owns data from users, Firefox can be forked.

          Unless Microsoft intends to similarly abuse its users, Edge could be completely opened.

          I would only ride a fork of Edge should this not prove true.

    • nindalf 10 months ago

      For all the people worried about when chasil will adopt Edge.

  • real0mar 10 months ago

    Ok

p1mrx 10 months ago

I briefly installed it, and see a list of 22 extensions, not much of a "store" right now.

neilv 10 months ago

It's like being an unwitting member of a death cult, but your moment of clarity comes when the refreshments table doesn't have blueberry-flavored punch. So you flee... right into the welcoming tentacles of the more appealing death cult next door.

modzu 10 months ago

how the hell does anyone use a browser on their phone without a bottom address bar (a la firefox)? do i just have tiny hands??

  • ewoodrich 10 months ago

    Personally I’ve used a Magsafe Pop Socket style grip for the last 5 years so my thumb naturally hovers over the center of the screen. Ergonomics of phones sucked in general for me as screens got bigger and bigger until I started using it.

  • gausswho 10 months ago

    You're not alone. Boggles my mind. I'm on GrapheneOS and they still won't bring it to Vanadium so petty me sticks with Firefox.

  • j_maffe 10 months ago

    Yeah that part is maddenning. I've been using a side-swippable cursor thing to reach the bar at the top.

liviux 10 months ago

Went to kiwi browser on my android phone and tablets, never looked back.

greatgib 10 months ago

No one in his right mind will voluntarily ever install and use Edge on any device (desktop or mobile)...

cft 10 months ago

Are they also banning uBlock v2 though?

josefritzishere 10 months ago

They don't want us to block ads? Shocking.

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