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blog.codeberg.orgI got the spam message with racist words and then this email:
>Dear users,
>earlier today, you might have received a notification email from our systems that contained abusive and offending content, and we apologize for the disturbing message.
>Please understand that no data from our platform was leaked. The emails were generated from our servers due to the notification settings of your user account, which is set to generate a notification whenever someone mentions your username in a conversation. The abuser had no access to your email address and was only using public information from our platform to abuse the notification feature.
>We have published a more detailed statement and explanations about the incident on our blog: https://blog.codeberg.org/we-stay-strong-against-hate-and-ha...
>Thank you for your understanding and stay safe. We are currently working to prevent similar incidents from happening again.
>Kind Regards >Your team from Codeberg e.V.
Noticed some nasty spam in my inbox this morning, had some trouble getting in to codeberg's site initially, now see the above message.
Respectfully, this isn't a "far-right" attack but a plain trolling attempt because reacting like this shows you're an easy target.
You should try to remove such content quietly. Creating publicity about attempts will only encourage trolls.
Respectfully, if you really believed this, you wouldn't be hiding behind a throwaway account.
I believe it, too, and i am not hiding. Every other teenager who is testing out how they can leave their "imprint" on the world will do offensive things, intentionally.
And by pulling a strong "omg we are attacked by the EVIL people", codeberg is feeding the troll. That guy is making big of an impact right now.
What are you even trying to say with that? The troll got what they wanted, attention.
Original title is: We stay strong against hate and hatred.
Does codeberg just not have proper limits? Why would you let someone mention 100 users in a single message and create like 800+ issues with one account in a very short time span
I got a couple of these mention notification emails this morning.
The only content in the email was the list of accounts they mentioned on that one, and 2 words.
The 2 words came off like some 5 year-old repeating bad words they'd heard, and giggling.
Not right-wing propaganda. More like a mentally impaired person. Or someone gloating over power they had to abuse the site with impunity, and not actually caring about the payload, so picking the most juvenile thing that came to mind.
Codeberg is good, and doesn't deserve this.
Hopefully, whomever is vandalizing Codeberg will realize they can be doing more positive things with their time and skill development. And get counseling help, if things are bothering them.
Who can she a light on where these claims „far right forces“ originate? What were these spam emails saying?
I received an email this morning where someone created an issue in a public repo with a title containing a racial slur and mentioning a bunch of users, including me. This is just one example as far as I know.
Got stuck in my spam folder, but for posterity. I've censored the N word out of this, it was uncensored in the email. Also other people's names
> [truth/truth] N***R BALLS (Issue #303)
> { A list of a bunch of users }
The email I received had no further context or content.
Seems like edge-lord spam mischaracterized as "far right"
These spammers also spammed threats to Codeberg users that maintain projects that advocate for human rights, trans rights, etc and collect facts/data against hate and discrimination. The content of those threats are how we know those spammers are far-right forces. The spam email notification was just a side-thing the spammers did to get more attention.
What’s the difference between?
Reversed question: How do they even relate? One is intentionally violating customs/manners, the other is a political orientation.
What’s the difference between?
I've heard plenty of "far-left" people use slurs, including n*****.
Using a slur is not indicative of a political leaning, it's an indication of your edge-lord status.
I feel like this kind of statement requires a little more details to back it up.
And, to use a hot take here, I believe that the "left to right" political axis can be simplified using a "I believe I am better than X" statement, where X is a set of people(s), that grows ever wider the further right you go.
Therefore a person on the "far left" of the axis would complete the sentence as "I believe I am better than nobody" and thus it's not really plausible that they would need slurs to talk about others.
I realize that this sounds a little of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy, but people saying they are something, does not make them that something unless backed up by actions/beliefs. Using slurs is antithetic to being any kind of left, not just "far", so I suspect you might have met someone confused about things.
Yes all far left people are saints and would never do this. Ridiculous.
I guess you missed every time they called Tim Scott and Judge Thomas uncle toms.
Yeah you're right. Far left people use slurs like "capitalist" and "billionaire" and have calls to violence like "eat the rich", I forgot. I'm not sure if they're really as offensive as the ones that we initially talked about though. (Also, I have no idea who those two(three?) people are.)
You are forgetting all the ways you can act as if you are superior to others other than by using nasty words. You are also forgetting a lot of commonly used insults from the far left: fascist, nazi, racist, sexist, bigot, bootlicker, tech bro, and so on and so forth.
Some on the hard left put a large focus on controlling the use of language. They are the arbiters of what is offensive, etc. Those "guides to inclusive language" that made the rounds a few years ago were perfect examples. You can't say blacklist or totem pole or "no can do". You can't say kowtow or gyp or "master branch". What is insisting you control the language of others except acting as it you are morally superior to them? Generally speaking, wokeness/political correctness is exactly that: acting as if you are better than others and your moral pronouncements (no pun intended) should take precedence over theirs, because of your superior moral authority.
I feel like those are less insults and slurs and more statements of perception. The only problem is when they get dispatched indiscriminately against everyone, when you're completely right. They've been so overused that they lose meaning.
However, I have to say it again, being called a boot-liker and a tech-bro does not bear the weight of a couple of centuries of slavery behind it. Maybe "nazi" would have a similarly charged undertone, but again, if someone tells me that I'm a nazi, I check my behaviour for what might have made them say that and then just stop being a nazi. It's not subtle being a nazi, or a fascist, or a sexist or a bigot.
Racist slurs can not be corrected for, you can not sit down reflect on your life and stop being Black, Hispanic, Asian or Middle-Eastern. But you can if you're a nazi.
Being called a "bootlicker" or a "techbro" is rude. No slurs have "centuries" of anything "behind" them. They are just rude, often very rude.
If someone tells me I am a Nazi, I don't need to "check" if I am one. I know already that I am not. The same is true of the rest of those terms. Yet I have been called a "neofascist" on HN quite recently. These terms are bandied about indiscriminately to mean "person I disagree with". They are just used as slurs. Even if the meaning of these terms shifted by usage over time to refer to something I did or thought, that wouldn't make the behaviour or view bad. They are labels, and they are insults because they label bad behaviour and views. But if they shifted by usage to start labelling good or neutral behaviour or views they would need to become good or neutral terms, as difficult as that would be, because otherwise you give people the power to determine what you do and think by shifting the meaning of words to which cultural weight is attached.
Easier is to steadfastly refuse to allow their meanings to shift. No, you are not a fascist for thinking police forces are necessary. You are not sexist for believing that men and women are different. You are not racist for wanting immigration law to be enforced. etc.
> You are not sexist for believing that men and women are different. You are not racist for wanting immigration law to be enforced.
You are a misogynist if you think that those differences between men and women need to be underscored through societal and politic measures against women. You are racist if you think that kicking immigrants out of your country means only the brown people (which sadly seems to be a trap you eagerly walked yourself into). So please.
I haven't walked into any traps. People get insulted as racist all the time when they haven't said anything about race.
People called GitHub racist for having a contract with ICE.
People call you racist if you say "immigration law should be enforced".
That is my entire point and your immediate assumption that I have fallen into a "trap" and must be a secret cryptoracist is exactly the behaviour I am talking about.
As for the differences being "underscored through measures against women", that is just stupid. There are differences and there are as a result social and legal distinctions drawn between men and women. Women are much more vulnerable to violence from men than the reverse. Single-sex spaces are a requirement as a result. This is a very basic example. The accommodations that employment law and social expectations need to make for women because of pregnancy is another example: you can't just say "we treat men and women the same: you are expected to lift heavy things at work" when you have a pregnant employee.
Literally my whole point is that some on the left eagerly take any opportunity they can get to assume bad faith and apply these insults to as many people as they can. You have then immediately done exactly that. So please. Your pathetic argument that this is just "descriptive" is ridiculous. You choose to interpret things in the worst possible light and to invent things I never said so that you can call me a racist misogynist. Don't pretend that you don't or that you are some neutral observer of people.
If a person is acting like a right-wing asshole, I’m going to assume they are a right-wing asshole. If they don’t like that, they should change their behavior.
This is circular reasoning -- a tautology.
No, it’s abductive reasoning. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…
No it's not.
> If a person is acting like a right-wing asshole
my point was people of all political leanings can act like this. it's not exclusive to "far-right" people.
> If they don’t like that, they should change their behavior.
they don't care. that's why they're trolling
I have heard things as well, here is my proof. [0]
What in the heck is happening here? Is this Twitter?
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These forces made spam accounts that spammed threats/insults in issue trackers and pull requests on projects that collect facts and resources against hate and discrimination and advocate for human rights, trans rights, etc on Codeberg. Some of the same spam accounts were behind the spam notification emails.
Also, because of the timing of the DDoS attack, they are likely be behind the DDoS attack as well, although that's not for sure. So we know they're far-right forces because of what they said in their threats to Codeberg users. The blog post mentions this but doesn't explicitly list the projects that were threatened so they don't continue to get spammed.
The emails were just "[truth/truth] (SLUR) BALLS (Issue #849)"
"@truth mentioned you: (100 users mentioned with @)"
They want to feel validated with identity politics first and foremost. Creating additional distance from the bad words so people who care about identity politics are comforted.
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Apart from jokes, why appealing to victimization when you have internet trolls bombing your system?
Trolls will always troll, and it's idiotic to blame far-whatever stuff always. If you have an online platform, you should at least keep your site safe from trolls and spammers.
They should stop doing victim-hood things, recognize their site was attacked by internet trolls and fix that thing. Everyone who have online services (including myself) knows this is a common issue.
Our site have attacks from radical left comments instead, and we don't do this "oh no, political extremism is too far, hate is never accepted", instead, we just delete the comments, try our best to keep them out from our platform and that's it.
Trolls will post extremism from left, right, anarchist, porn, ads, whatever in order to disrupt services
How that drama unfolded? Where did it started?
Read the linked article, it's all about that.
Far-right and alt-right trolls have been spamming projects hosted on Codeberg that either enable or favor diversity and inclusivity.
Yeah there is no link of those , so wanna see what they are doing.