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Apple to pay $95M to settle lawsuit accusing Siri of snoopy eavesdropping

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21 points by Paddywack a year ago · 14 comments

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st3fan a year ago

"Apple isn’t acknowledging any wrongdoing in the settlement, ... " - Why would Apple settle? Just to make this go away?

I cannot believe that "recording conversations and selling the data to advertisers" is something that actually happened. Does anyone? That feels like such a gross departure from their privacy commitments ...

  • add-sub-mul-div a year ago

    If their commitment to privacy was more than virtue signaling they wouldn't take billions of dollars a year selling their search users to Google.

  • simondanisch a year ago

    Apple is a very aggressive and ruthless company... Just look at their lobby activities, how they go against the right to repair and how they generally try to ruthlessly lock you into their ecosystem... So this seems to be pretty much on character for me

  • fragmede a year ago

    > I cannot believe that "recording conversations and selling the data to advertisers" is something that actually happened.

    Btw, I own the Brooklyn bridge, would you like to see it? It's for sale!

    Of course it happened! How do you think Siri looks stuff up on the web? There has to be some sort of identifier that gets sent off, otherwise how else would that work? If that indentifier is sent to, say, a search engine, and that search engine is paying for that traffic, Apple is now taking ad money for Siri searches.

  • talldayo a year ago

    > I cannot believe that "recording conversations and selling the data to advertisers" is something that actually happened.

    Why not?

    • jki275 a year ago

      It's very much the opposite of Apple's brand. Apple simply does not do this.

      • talldayo a year ago

        You assume an awful lot for someone that has no executive insight into how Apple operates. How are you so sure?

        • jki275 a year ago

          That's not an assumption. It's easy enough to look at what Apple does.

          • talldayo a year ago

            I agree, which is why I'm shocked that anyone can act surprised: https://www.macrumors.com/2023/12/06/apple-governments-surve...

          • Idesmi a year ago

            It's a company with shareholders. Also they don't even hide that they sell some information for ads targeting.

            • jki275 a year ago

              That's exactly what they don't do.

              • lern_too_spel a year ago

                They absolutely give cookie data to Google for marketing their products, and they absolutely give targeting data to Apple News publishers. Funny how they don't let you uninstall or disable Apple News even on Mac, let alone iOS, which was already known to be locked down for Apple's profit.

                • jki275 a year ago

                  False. They don't give anything to Google, and I just removed the News app from my phone just to prove it could be done.

                  iOS isn't locked down for "Apple's profit", it's locked down for the users' security. This isn't really controversial, only really hardcore Google shills who don't know anything about Apple would argue otherwise.

ChrisArchitect a year ago

Earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42578929

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