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CrowdStrike is not worth 83B Dollars

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119 points by argiope a year ago · 43 comments

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bnchrch a year ago

For those that come straight to the comments:

This reddit post was written hours before the outage

  • tonynator a year ago

    Simply search "crowdstrike" or "crwd" in the subreddit for evidence of regular posts about this stock, both positive and negative. Just a coincidence, and not really that special of one. HN should be smarter than this

  • neilv a year ago

    Amusing conspiracy theory:

    1. Quietly compromise enterprise IT vendor X.

    2. Sockpuppet post on /r/wallstreetbets, suggesting shorting X, for any reason (doesn't matter why).

    3. Place big bet against X's stock.

    4. Use your compromise of X to accelerate a big public failure by X.

    5. Profit, and the WSB post by your sockpuppet is your plausible reason for shorting X, and you're only one of a crowd who did so.

    6. Bonus: sockpuppet account becomes WSB folk hero, as others also profit from tip, which is political capital you can spend later.

    • a0123 a year ago

      Can't use X like that anymore.

      Makes it sound like you're talking about the site formerly known as Tiwtter.

      • quantified a year ago

        Why not? They chose to be named as the most popular independent variable of all time. It would be super ironic if we change how we refer to things because of their preferences for calling themselves.

      • neilv a year ago

        We shouldn't let billionaires destroy language, and we don't have to.

      • josefritzishere a year ago

        Elon ruined the letter X.

deadbabe a year ago

Being able to take down half the internet is a pretty good demonstration of a company’s power. I’d say it’s definitely worth at least 83B.

flerchin a year ago

They're up more than double YoY as of right now. Down ~30% from peak mostly due to the events today. It's not clear to me if the OP on this is "in the money". I don't fully grok options trading.

She says: > My Position:

    CRWD $185 Put, 11/21/25 expiration date,.
    5 contracts @ $7.30, up 16.85% since 06/11/24
  • _heimdall a year ago

    This basically means the person has a guaranteed buyer who has to buy a set number of shares of CrowdStrike at $185 per share. If the price drops below that, say to $100, this person can buy a share at market value and immediately execute the contract making the person buy it at $185.

    In the meantime, as the share price drops the contract's value itself usually goes up. They can sell the contract itself without having to touch shares and still make a profit.

  • mttpgn a year ago

    The position doesn't have to be "in the money" to be profitable. At present, the underlying (that is $CRWD, not the puts themselves) is trading around $305 per share, so these puts with the strike price all the way down to $185 are still far, far off from being ITM. But, options are largely a bet on volatility. While the extreme price drop between when this user opened the trade and this morning has already made this trade quite profitable, it could still lose money if the trader holds on to it; IANAFA, but selling and taking profits on this rare event would most likely be in their interests, even if they continue to believe the underlying security will go all the way down to $185 by November.

  • ketzo a year ago

    Those same contracts are currently trading at $13.65, so close to doubled since yesterday.

    If they sold right now, ~$7000 on ~$3500 invested; not bad.

  • yieldcrv a year ago

    they should have stuck with the SEC whistleblower bounty program

    Theyd make way more than that DOOM LEAP they bought, but its worth $13 at time of writing, so 100%

    people trading the 0DTE made 18,700% though

    just save this comment for when you understand it

  • deliveryboyman a year ago

    No, they are not ITM until CRWD hits $180/sh.

    • Kirby64 a year ago

      $185 puts that cost $7.30 mean they are considered ITM if CRWD drops below $184.27, assuming there's no cost to trade and the $7.30 refers to a single options contract (worth 100 shares). There is likely some (or a lot) extrensic value still remaining in the puts given the far away expiry date. The extrensic value is what makes them valuable.

      • deliveryboyman a year ago

        Yes that was a typo. I meant 185.

        Regardless, all of this is just intellectual play considering the Reddit poster has no desire to exercise their options.

bearjaws a year ago

These are some REALLY dumb takes...

> CrowdStrike could potentially behave as a propaganda arm of the US government by creating “fake hacking stories” which are un-disprovable.They are able to do this due to information asymmetries in society.

If this is true, then isn't crowdstrike valuation quite low?

> It’s prohibitively hard to hack into a “cloud system” due to few possible entry points

?????

apitman a year ago

These numbers are old. They need to update it to "CrowdStrike is not worth 73B Dollars"

observationist a year ago

Crowdstrike is worth whatever they can get people to pay for it. It might not provide that level of value to its clients, but it certainly sells at that price in the market.

  • FactKnower69 a year ago

    Such a worthless type of post to make

  • whalesalad a year ago

    Ayn Rand, is that you? I guess technically speaking you are correct - but that value proposition has evaporated now. They've likely lost all trust with their customers at this point.

    I do hold IT departments accountable, though. A third party vendor software update should not be able to cripple your entire organization like this.

    • a0123 a year ago

      Especially since I'm assuming those organisations pay good money for those services (my org hasn't been affected and we don't use them but we're also very small so I wouldn't know).

2-3-7-43-1807 a year ago

that reddit post certainly aged well ...

binary132 a year ago

Lisan Al Ghaib!

ChrisArchitect a year ago

Leave your reddit nonsense over there.

More discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41002195

whycome a year ago

The timing of this is so absurd it's almost more believable that the poster was shorting this stock.

  • dboreham a year ago

    The post says they hold a short position.

  • tonynator a year ago

    There are WSB posts all the time both positive and negative about all large companies. Simply search "crowdstrike" or "crwd" in the subreddit for evidence of regular posts. Just a coincidence, and not really that special of one.

thanatos519 a year ago

Now it's not worth $83.

2-3-7-43-1807 a year ago

not anymore ... LMAO

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