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US has urged Ukraine to halt strikes on Russian oil refineries

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12 points by codingcodingboy 2 years ago · 9 comments

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consumer451 2 years ago

I cannot imagine the frustration of Ukrainians upon hearing this.

"Can't you please just die quietly?" is a common sarcastic reaction that I am seeing.

  • jfengel 2 years ago

    I am indeed certain they're frustrated. And equally frustrated by the opposite snide remark that the US is "willing to fight to the last Ukrainian". The US is damned if it does and damned if it doesn't.

    There's a surreal agreement that somehow this war can be contained as long as we obey certain arbitrary rules. The US can send all the weapons it wants (except nuclear ones), but they can't send soldiers. The fight is against the Russian army, not the Russian people -- except for the fact that they (supposedly) just re-elected Putin. If Putin starts to feel the war will damage himself, then he'll feel free to end the entire world.

    This is bizarre and insane. But not necessarily wrong.

  • polski-g 2 years ago

    They don't need to die; they can just surrender. Sometimes the good guys lose.

    • consumer451 2 years ago

      And in that scenario, what would prevent the kremlin from taking the rest of Ukraine a few years later?

consumer451 2 years ago

Hmm:

> Ukraine denies US requested to halt strikes on Russian oil refineries

https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/ukraine-denies-us-requested-...

Arnt 2 years ago

https://archive.is/OTRef

This sounds awfully complicated.

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