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31 points by mantesso 2 years ago · 13 comments

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stanislavb 2 years ago

This is the second front of the war that most of could have at least some impact.

  • dvfjsdhgfv 2 years ago

    It is a double-edged sword. The short impact, depending on an industry, is that the Russian government will have slightly less money. This is net good short term because this money finances the war among others (but also education, hospitals...). However, in the long term, this means increasing the divide between the two worlds and, economically, the Russian government trying to reproduce the missing markets locally and partly succeeding, at least for non-hi-tech sectors.

    What would I call the most important front of this war? A call to ordinary Russians. Explaining to them how wrong is this war. That Putin has been lying to them for decades. There were no Ukrainian Nazis who were persecuting the Russian population in 2014. Russia wasn't forced to start the war. NATO doesn't "expand" as a self-conscious organism or by the will of the USA (heck, Trump would even happily back out of it!) - on the contrary, individual countries join it so that they don't share the fate of Ukraine. If all Russians understand what happened and Putin has no support, there will be less reason to continue this inhuman activity, also by his successors. But if Russian themselves are supporting the war, there is no hope of stopping it.

    • brunkerhart 2 years ago

      This is very oversimplified view on what happens and thus provides wrong solution.

      I would recommend you to watch this interview https://youtu.be/6xIeLJGcpfU. Alexander Shtefanov is not Welcomed by bot Ukrainians and Russian “patriots” because he reveals truth unpleasant for both sides

      • dvfjsdhgfv 2 years ago

        Could you summarize it in 2-3 sentences? The video is 3 hours long...

        EDIT: I couldn't resist and started watching, it's really interesting. The guy also reflect the change I saw in many young Russians. (Dying for Zhukov's statue was especially funny...)

sedan_baklazhan 2 years ago

This is really an interesting take. a. Company leaves Russia. b. It can't take it's money or assets abroad (this is forbidden). c. It starts negotiating sale of business and/or sale of assets with the Russian government. d. Usual terms are: d1. Sell at discount not less than 50% d2. Our of the sale price, pay at least 10% directly to the Russian state budget. e. Win (?)

theshrike79 2 years ago

...but my PrOfItS!

Companies only see the next quarter, Russia brings money to quarter, profitable quarter brings stock options and bonuses.

PR cost of doing business in Russia is smaller than effect of stock options bonuses on C-staff.

Companies stay in Russia.

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