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Jetbrains unbundles AI Assistant and is now available as a separate plugin

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78 points by adl 2 years ago · 30 comments

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donmcronald 2 years ago

I read the ToS when this issue surfaced last month. I think JetBrains tried to do a reasonable job of restricting the use of code by the AI companies.

I think the thing they missed is that many of us don’t trust those companies and don’t think AI is going to bring the gains being promised. I personally think we’ll see larger volumes of mediocre junk and fewer amazing, innovative things built by extremely talented experts.

I don’t want to contribute anything to AI.

  • dartos 2 years ago

    We’ll definitely see more junk, but I doubt we’ll see fewer amazing things

  • gorjusborg 2 years ago

    I am not against AI, per se, but I am against giving unfettered access to my data implicitly for who knows the purpose.

    In many cases it isn't even my data to grant access to.

adlOP 2 years ago

"Beginning with the Beta version of IntelliJ IDEA 2024.1, AI Assistant has been unbundled and is now available as a separate plugin."

This was a mayor complaint about a month ago:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39238666

  • thegrim000 2 years ago

    Man I hate their licensing system. Now I have to buy an updated license so my fallback version will be at least this new version. So I have to pay for another license to get this fix.

    • acchow 2 years ago

      You have a choice between software frozen in time (perpetual fallback license) or continually updated (subscription plan)

    • flumpcakes 2 years ago

      That's exactly how the licensing works.

      You get a perpetual license for the version you bought at that point in time as a fall back if you don't renew a subscription which frankly is much more than most offer.

      If you're wanting a perpetual license that includes all future updates across all versions then I am afraid that doesn't exist pretty much anywhere. Fruity Loops is the only software I know that is still developed heavily and gets updates in this way.

      • jasomill 2 years ago

        Logic Pro, Final Cut Pro, and DaVinci Resolve Studio, but, unlike JetBrains, neither Apple nor Blackmagic rely on software sales for most of their revenue.

        Also, I can think of a few utility programs like Alfred[1] and BetterTouchTool[2] that offer lifetime upgrades at additional cost.

        Finally, consumer Windows appears to have more or less adopted this model, subsidized by a steady stream of volume and OEM license sales.

        [1] https://www.alfredapp.com/shop/

        [2] https://folivora.ai/buy

      • piafraus 2 years ago

        To be honest it does feel weird that the subscription allows you to upgrade to latest yet not use it after it ends.

        I personally would think that something like "You purchase a year of versions, so final one you would be able to upgrade to - would be your perpetual subscription"

0xy 2 years ago

I tried AI Assistant and it's profoundly bad. The free trial didn't work (server error), so I put in my credit card and paid the extra cost. Same server error. Asked in the Discord and they said it was a known error that you could buy the product and it wouldn't be available 'for a while'???

Come back tomorrow, it works, but barely. It's slow, inserts code in random places that makes no sense, can't answer basic questions about basic functions.

It's useless. There's MVP tier and then there's not even testing whether you can purchase the product.

PeterStuer 2 years ago

Direct link to the relevant part if you want to avoid lots of scrolling: https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2024/03/intellij-idea-2024-1...

  • adlOP 2 years ago

    Thanks! I swear I put that direct link on the submission, maybe it got striped.

sparrowInHand 2 years ago

There should be a customer veto gremium in any company, with customer representives who can veto the latest hyped up bs before it gets forcefed into something vital and does real harm to the core product.

egberts1 2 years ago

Oh good, I wasn’t prepared to deal with LLM infested with hyper-partisan stuff as its seed content.

happytiger 2 years ago

A day late and 200 dollars short.

throwaway5959 2 years ago

I almost cancelled my JetBrains subscription when I saw that shit. Very bad move on their part.

  • freilanzer 2 years ago

    Why?

    • throwaway5959 2 years ago

      They were by default sending code back to their servers so they could make AI suggestions. I didn’t consent to that.

      • NoahKAndrews 2 years ago

        Source? I really don't think that's true.

        • sidewndr46 2 years ago

          According to JetBrains

          > Neither we nor our service providers use your data or code for training any generative models.

          This is some very weasel-wording stuff written by a lawyer. It probably means their parent company can use the code for training, they just can't do it directly.

        • throwaway5959 2 years ago

          How else would they be able to provide the service? They aren’t doing the compute on my laptop, otherwise I’d have to download model files, etc.

mistrial9 2 years ago

lets assume that Ubuntu Linux from Canonical is a solid platform. However, snapd is intrusive and still not stable IMO. The implementation of libc as a snap component, and the Firefox Browser as a snap component, are notably onerous. Some linux downstream from Ubuntu remove snapd completely.

JetBrains -- please support installation on Ubuntu minus the snapd system. thanks in advance

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