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Why is Gradle so bad?

7 points by nekudotayim 2 years ago · 7 comments · 1 min read


There's plenty of posts on the problems of Gradle [1][2 etc] - it's undiscoverable, undebuggable, and the documentation tells you everything except how to actually solve your problem. Why is it still the standard JVM build tool? Kotlin is a wonderful high-level server language, I just can't get past how hard it is to set up - and no, RTFM hasn't helped me in the slightest.

Trying to understand if there's room/need for improvement here, not start a flame war. I've tried Maven once upon a time and that had its own problems.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35709521 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25801986

I_Am_Nous 2 years ago

My only experience with Gradle was negative, but that's probably because I'm not a Java dev (or any dev, to be frank) but I was trying to set up a server to play Agrarian Skies classic and couldn't find a compatible bukkit server jar and made the mistake of trying to compile it myself. It just kept breaking and not working. I think it was a Gradle 1.8 project so it was also ancient lol

DemocracyFTW2 2 years ago

so—just don't use it?

  • nekudotayimOP 2 years ago

    Stack overflow dev survey says docker is far and away more popular, but that doesn't absolve the need to build your binaries...I'm just surprised given kotlin's usage in android.

djaouen 2 years ago

It’s Java. What did you expect it to be? Good???

  • dang 2 years ago

    Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

    If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

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