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Ask HN: If you were to build a web app today what tech stack would you choose?

92 points by russianbandit 2 years ago · 213 comments · 1 min read


Not for your current job. But if you were starting a new passion project.

martinald 2 years ago

.NET 8 for the backend, and then blazor webassembly for the front end if it's complicated, or just boring old server side rendering with htmx if it's not.

I've seen a lot of projects fail/struggle in golang (package ecosystem is still missing a lot of basics imo) or nextjs (very buggy).

.NET has been my secret weapon. It's boring, works really well, has a good ecosystem and asp.net is really well thought through and you can go as "deep" as you want with middleware etc. Plus performance is extremely good, as is the deployment story with docker these days (having to use Windows server with .net Framework a few years ago was a nightmare, enough to put me off, but in .net core Linux is a first class citizen now).

Also the IDEs are great these days, especially rider.

  • codegeek 2 years ago

    I am personally new to the .NET world but the idea that you can mostly replace JavaScript with Blazor component is fascinating to me and I am really trying to get more into it. Also, Microsoft stuff gets a bad rep in general but .NET ecosystem is solid and I am loving it. Otherwise, I do PHP/Laravel and Go.

  • all2 2 years ago

    How do you manage page load times? I've been fiddling with Razor/Blazor and sometimes the page load times are obscene (5+ seconds). Is that just because it has debug symbols built in? Or is there something else I'm missing?

  • andrewstuart 2 years ago

    Do you deploy .NET on Windows or Linux?

    • martinald 2 years ago

      Linux exclusively - I detest Windows server, via docker.

      I feel that it's actually quite rare to run modern .NET apps on Windows Server now.

      • PH95VuimJjqBqy 2 years ago

        I understand and agree with your sentiment but .net core on windows is definitely not rare. What's rare is asp.net windows developers knowing what a reverse proxy is (they typically install the asp.net core hosting packages).

        • all2 2 years ago

          Wait, wait, so reverse proxy functionality is available in ASP.NET?

          If I'm deploying an app to a K8s cluster, I assume I would still opt for an ingress rather than making my app handle that bit of functionality? Where's the cutoff here?

          Also, how do I handle discovering what ASP.NET offers in terms of functionality? Is there an overview somewhere that I missed?

          • PH95VuimJjqBqy 2 years ago

            RP has nothing to do with any programming language or framework, if a web server exists, you can put a reverse proxy in front of it.

            In this case, asp.net core has a built-in web server named Kestrel. IIS can be used as a reverse proxy so you can have IIS forward requests to web servers bound to local host.

            Personally, I think its quite hilarious that you went straight to k8's. The vast majority of asp.net code is running on servers (bare metal or otherwise).

            • all2 2 years ago

              Thank you!

              > Personally, I think its quite hilarious that you went straight to k8's.

              I work in a production environment with some 1.5mil loc that runs in a k8s cluster, so that's what I know. I'm not sure which reverse proxy we use in our ingress. I'd have to check with devops.

    • harshalizee 2 years ago

      You can deploy on both quite easily. The newer .NETs are properly multiplatform

pelletier 2 years ago

You mention it's a passion project. If technology is the center of that passion, then pick what you're passionate or curious about!

If not: the tried but true Rails + Postgres.

Add more things only when needed. For example Alpine.js if a bit of interaction that's not covered by Rails' Turbo. If the need for background processing arises, bring in the good_job gem, and there may be no need to deploy it separately at first.

For hosting I'm not quite sure these days. Heroku may be on life-support, but its feature-set covers most basis.

  • mooreds 2 years ago

    > For hosting I'm not quite sure these days. Heroku may be on life-support, but its feature-set covers most basis.

    I'd probably start with Render for rails hosting these days. Seems to be the best heroku descendant.

Zealotux 2 years ago

Just had been thinking about this today, the current state of web development is making me seriously depressed.

I would pick what I'm most comfortable with, a simple monolithic Nest.js application running Fastify, with Postgres or SQLite, Dockerized, hosted on a predictably-priced host like Hetzner, and Ansible to automate everything. I know that stack will give me plenty of headroom until I eventually need to scale differently.

Front-end is still React, which has a massive ecosystem, and I feel like I can do _anything_ with it by just bringing in some dependencies, if it's a passion project then I want to deliver features fast, React allows me that.

I feel like a dinosaur, edge, workers, cloud functions... I'm familiar with none of that magic, there's probably a whole universe of amazing new ways to build for the web I'm sleeping on, but at that point I don't even care really.

  • ACS_Solver 2 years ago

    The discussion is making me scared from another perspective.

    I have experience with a pretty wide variety of development. I've worked with embedded microcontrollers (minimalistic RTOS), embedded applications (on top of a proper Linux), desktop applications in Java and in C#, some C++ work, gamedev and more. But to this day I haven't touched Web apps. I have not written a line of JS and the closest I've done to modern web is a tiny API in Go that sends a JSON response and renders a static HTML page.

    With my total lack of Web experience (and self-confessed hate of webapps as a user), I have no opinions on React, Rails, Node.js, Vue and whatever people are naming here. But I'm taken aback at the variety - there's 20-odd replies all giving different answers.

    Does Web development in 2023 not have 2-3 tech stacks that dominate? Are the existing frameworks/techs so lacking that new ones keep appearing to address those problems? Is there a high rate of change because things keep improving? If so, where is that improvement for me as a user, when webapps still feel inferior to late 90s native programs?

    • ghusto 2 years ago

      I'm in the same situation as you, but have what I think be an incredibly unpopular theory on why all those competing technologies exist: Everyone is trying to unsuccessfully patch JavaScript.

      Every few years, a group thinks they're the ones with the one true ring, and try again.

      Each new shiny seems to promote even poorer practices than the last, lowering both the bar and the barrier of entry further.

      • dinkleberg 2 years ago

        I don't think that is an unpopular view. Though I think it is more fair to say people are trying to patch the browser runtime environment and its APIs. JavaScript the language is "fine", it is that doing things the way the browser wants you to do them is often quite verbose, so people build layers of abstraction on top.

        Unfortunately these abstraction layers end up being just as, if not more complex than what it is building on top of.

        People creating frameworks can work a lot faster than the browser development teams. The modern browser stack is actually getting pretty good, but still some things like creating web components are awkward compared to many of the popular frameworks. And when people find something awkward to do, especially in as flexible a setup as JS, they will make their own abstractions.

        My suggestion for anyone feeling overwhelmed by the JS ecosystem is to just work with plain ol' vanilla JS for a while. It'll give you a much better understanding of what is actually going on and you'll likely realize the problems you're trying to solve are pretty straightforward. But you'll also see that things can end up quite verbose (though the comprehensibility will likely be quite high). You'll find that there are some areas that are kind of annoying and this is where when you go back to one of the frameworks you'll see its value (but also likely where it is totally overkill). At the end of the day if you can keep your mindset focused on the browser runtime rather than the specific framework you happen to be using, you'll have a much better time. At least that is my experience.

    • gdiamos 2 years ago

      I was in the same situation as you, and then I tried it a few years ago.

      I realized that front end software is actually pretty shallow.

      Design is important, deep, and requires talking to users, but once you have a design it is pretty straightforward to get the pixels into your favorite JavaScript/React/Vue/CSS/etc code base. Importantly, design is not about the code. Designers work in tools like Figma, not react.

      Web frontend applications will then need to call into a backend. If you are doing anything computationally heavy or complex you are back in the world of normal software development.

      I think this is why you see more full stack than frontend engineers.

      If you are worried about it, I’d suggest trying a project. If it looks like crap, you probably need to get help from a designer or learn design, not figure out which web stack to use.

    • irq-1 2 years ago

      My 2 cents: keep working with Go. Learn just enough about templates to start, JSON to struct mapping and URL routing. It's not a great backend, but the client is what you really need to learn. For the client look through browser tools F12. For the basics of HTML, CSS and JavaScript skim through https://www.w3schools.com/ [People HATE this site but it has very limited info, making it a quick read.] For actual documentation use MDN https://developer.mozilla.org/ and skip any framework/library until you have the basics.

    • catlover76 2 years ago

      > Does Web development in 2023 not have 2-3 tech stacks that dominate?

      no

      > Are the existing frameworks/techs so lacking that new ones keep appearing to address those problems?

      The existing frameworks are fine. Most languages have just 1 or 2 frameworks for you to build in that language.

      The problem child for all of this is the JavaScript ecosystem. A lot of developers in that space just keep proliferating a bunch of heavy-handed frameworks that do not accomplish anything new, but represent some opinionated take on architecture, tooling, etc., and which obfuscate everything behind layers of magic and indirection.

      > Is there a high rate of change because things keep improving?

      For the most part, I wouldn't say things are "improving" that much. I mean, React and Vue and Svelte are better for front-end development than what came before, for sure, but, speaking at least re: React, it's become a bit of a monstrosity. Pluses and minuses, I suppose.

      Again, the problem is mostly in JS land. They are a little like the stereotype of Java devs, in some ways.

    • lofaszvanitt 2 years ago

      It's the inner child of developers. They feel the need/urge to show the world they can do it better than existing bloated thing. And they show it, and people jump on the shiny new train. Rinse and repeat. The problem is, those that could really make a dent are not present in this space :P.

    • ydnaclementine 2 years ago

      Web dev frameworks are like pizzas: everyone has their favorite toppings and styles, some are more popular than others, and others are sometimes loathed (pineapple), but it generally all comes down to cheese, dough, sauce at the end of the day.

    • austin-cheney 2 years ago

      There is a high rate of change because the big frameworks solve the wrong problems, massage over a catastrophic knowledge/skills gap, and do less than what is needed while imposing an unavoidable, yet unnecessary, tremendous cost/size.

      If developers could execute with confidence in the browser understanding the compile target, the DOM, we wouldn’t be in this mess. But, most developers are scared shitless of tree models and/or writing any form of original code. That is not a technology problem. It’s a people problem.

  • hipadev23 2 years ago

    Curious what are you doing with both ansible and containers? What does ansible actually do in your setup?

    • leosanchez 2 years ago

      I use it to install docker and other tools on my vm. I guess the commenter is doing something similar

  • catlover76 2 years ago

    > edge, workers, cloud functions

    Those are things people do not need unless at an appropriate scale, or appropriate use-case, etc.

chrisdalke 2 years ago

This depends on your goal: Are you trying to build + finish a project, or learn a new skill? I like to separate these goals, or otherwise try to scope projects very narrowly.

For the former, I tend to reach for the tech stack that I've spent years working in and can very quickly spin up projects in. This is heavily specific to your background, but for me:

- Frontend: React, vite, react-router, Chakra UI.

- Backend: Node.js + Express

- Database: PostgreSQL

- Scheduled jobs/ML/data processing: Python

- Deployment/Infrastructure: Docker, docker-compose, AWS EC2 or Lightsail, Digital Ocean droplets, Netlify, Render

For the latter, there are lots of potentially better options, whether that's server-side rendering, serverless functions, etc. (Next.js, fly.io, supabase, are a few examples) and again depends on your industry.

  • andrewstuart 2 years ago

    Exactly this, but I’d only deploy to a simple cloud virtual machine, and not from AWS, Azure or GCP…. 9 cents a gigabyte is crazy.

PaulHoule 2 years ago

My current side project is using python aiohttp and htmx. The main plus of Python is that it has a lot of machine learning functionality but the truth is almost all of that is used in batch jobs and if I did anything computationally intensive serving a page I would have to farm the work out to another process. I have no trouble maintaining Python I write but it seems to always fall apart like Jenna blocks when I hand it off to somebody else.

If I had to get more people involved and have it scale I might go to Flask but might also go to a Java-based backend as it really has the best ability to use threads and parallelism.

As for HTMX I like it but I think there could be something similar but a little more feature risk, for instance my app has a lot of tables and tools that make it easy to add client-side sort buttons would be nice. If I had more people working on it I could see using a react-a-like system as well.

The database is arangodb which I love for rapid prototyping but if it had to be really reliable the first thing I would look at is postgres.

brundolf 2 years ago

The answer to this kind of question is always "whatever you're most comfortable/productive with"

For me personally, I've been working on one that's pretty app-y and used Postgres + Deno + React/MobX (built with esbuild)

I'm very comfortable and happy with TypeScript, so I like having it on both ends (especially because I can share types between the two sides of the wire). And Deno and esbuild make the tooling story really simple and no-nonsense on the back and the front respectively, while being less opinionated than a framework like Next (I like Next for other things, just didn't choose it here)

  • zamerick 2 years ago

    This, with the added mention that if you intend to turn this into a business and hire people, choose something that is easy to hire for.

edent 2 years ago

LAMP.

It can easily be maintained by a single developer. Scales well enough for a decent number of users. Huge ecosystem of components. Easy to deploy to literally any web host. Wide variety of front-end systems.

If you need to scale, it can do that. Developers for it are plentiful. But you can always rewrite it in the flavour-of-the-month framework when you hit either scale or money.

  • edg5000 2 years ago

    For anything that is anticipated to grow beyond a very small codebase, the lack of static checkability really becomes a pain with PHP.

    I'm surprised that Java and modern C++ are not more popular. I know for large web applications, Java is popular in "enterprise" environments.

    • hipadev23 2 years ago
    • KronisLV 2 years ago

      > I'm surprised that Java and modern C++ are not more popular. I know for large web applications, Java is popular in "enterprise" environments.

      Java scales both up (Spring Boot, with it's many integrations) and down (Dropwizard, a bunch of popular packages, nice for simpler projects) pretty well, has a great runtime and the language itself is okay.

      Also there's .NET, where everything seems to revolve more around ASP.NET and EF, but as a consequence feels less fragmented than things on the Java side. Performance is also nice (especially on Linux with Kestrel) and the tooling is nice.

      Honestly, both seem a viable option for something with more typing and language guarantees, as well as on average having a bit better performance than some of the highly dynamic languages (at the expense of iteration speed early on in development).

      That said, Go is probably also worth a look, the deployment situation there is way simpler.

    • catlover76 2 years ago

      There are other statically typed languages that are more pleasant to work with.

  • mooreds 2 years ago

    > Developers for it are plentiful.

    It's been a hot minute since I was looking for PHP developers, but when I did, I saw a ton of folks with Wordpress experience. And not many others who had experience with traditional three tier applications, how to write a database query, separation of concerns and general software development.

    Maybe I was looking in the wrong places.

    Do you find that software engineers who work in PHP are prevalent?

  • supportengineer 2 years ago

    Agree but with Postgres instead

    • xhkkffbf 2 years ago

      I'm having great luck with SQLite. Most of the content is cached in ram so there aren't many hits on the db.

    • hotnfresh 2 years ago

      FNPP

      FreeBSD

      Nginx

      PostgreSQL

      PHP/Python

      Or, for something a bit less mainstream and only for certain types of application but more minimalist:

      FNRL

      FreeBSD

      Nginx

      Redis

      Lua

  • issa 2 years ago

    Never underestimate the value of tried and true solutions!

  • simonw 2 years ago

    Which P?

  • threatofrain 2 years ago

    Astro is the PHP of JavaScript and it’s quite lovely.

FlyingSnake 2 years ago

Django with HTMX + Alpine on the frontend. Deployed as Docker container on a cheap VPS. It's boring, time tested but by Jove, does it get the job done fast.

I'm building a B2B2C marketplace in my free time and I'm blown away by the practicality of this stack. Due to longevity of Django, every problem I encounter is just a search away. DRF makes it dead simple to add REST APIs. The Admin panel is a golden cherry on top.

  • scottwick 2 years ago

    Yeah, this is exactly what I do as well. I'd be curious to hear more about your deployment process, specifically how you get your Docker image onto the VPS. Do you just push to a registry like DockerHub and then pull it down on the VPS?

  • quickthrower2 2 years ago

    Sounds good. Do you do type checking? DB?

    • FlyingSnake 2 years ago

      Yes, using mypy and planning to check out Ruff instead. PostgreSQL for prod DB, SQLite for local dev.

      • diarrhea 2 years ago

        mypy and ruff are complementary, and as far as I know have no overlap. Strongly recommend using both.

pabe 2 years ago

Django + HTMX + SQLite or PostgreSQL Hosted on a virtual machine.

... Or the stack you're most efficient/ effective in. A short time-to-market is most important for learning. If you don't reach an audience, your project might bore you soon. Tech rarely is the holy grail to success.

  • appplication 2 years ago

    I feel like I want to like htmx, and the concepts sound cool. But json is such a nice generic serialization format. Like my API can be in service of my frontend, but also other applications. While, unless I misunderstand it, htmx seems to philosophically believe the backend is the frontend.

    Are there any patterns where you have an API with nice json payloads but also use htmx to push the rendering to backend? What do you do when you have users that just want basic data from the API? Do you add json endpoints, or is it more of a “fuck you learn how to accept html” situation?

    • pabe 2 years ago

      You can have both a hypermedia API and a data (JSON) API. Your hypermedia API is a lot more lightweight and flexible as it's tied to your web app. The HTMX authors talk about that topic in their book: https://hypermedia.systems/json-data-apis/

      "These two different types of APIs have different strengths and needs, so it makes sense to use both. The hypermedia approach can be used for your web application, allowing you to specialize the API for the “shape” of your application. The Data API approach can be used for other, non-hypermedia clients like mobile, integration partners, etc.

      Note that by splitting these two APIs apart, you reduce the pressure to constantly change a general Data API to address application needs. Your Data API can focus on remaining stable and reliable, rather than requiring a new version with every added feature."

out_of_protocol 2 years ago

Elixir/Phoenix + Postgresql. Maximum comfort, minimum chore.

For frontend side, if i can get away with minimal js, i'd go that way. If not, highly depends on team and target interactivity. If it's just me, i'd go with LiveView

3ds 2 years ago

Rails. It's all about developer comfort. ruby as a language is a delight to work with. Rails as a framework has all the features I need and then some more. Postgres as the database of course!

  • it_citizen 2 years ago

    What would you use for the FE?

    • andrei_says_ 2 years ago

      Rails’ Hotwire most likely.

      Turbo gives regular server rendered pages the snappiness of an SPA with zero dev effort.

      The latest Hotwire allows easy replacement or lazy loading of any portion of a page.

      All while preserving 10x developer efficiency. There’s simply no other stack with similar productivity.

      (Not the original poster but came to this thread with “Rails” as the answer)

      Hotwire is backend agnostic. Laravel has adopted it as a front end solution too.

    • lucidone 2 years ago

      .erb templates are just as good as they were a decade ago.

joshka 2 years ago

For a more nuanced viewpoint than "This is the tool I am most familiar with" (which for the most part is both the right answer for that person, but probably not for you), see the MDN articles starting at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn/Tools_and_tes... and reading down through the next few chapters.

mikewarot 2 years ago

I'd write it in Lazarus/Free Pascal, compile it to WASM[1], and do whatever hacks I had to do in order to push it through the internet into a web browser.

There's nothing even close to the productivity we had back in the days of VB6/Delphi to be had on the web, ever. The closest we're going to get is a pale imitation.

[1] https://wiki.freepascal.org/WebAssembly

  • meiraleal 2 years ago

    If that was really true, it would be a competitive advantage of many companies. Unless they are hiding it. Desktop apps are easier to develop as there are way less moving parts.

    There isn't nothing magical about VB6/Delphi, just a lot of work put there. Many JS developers are multiple times more productive than what was possible to accomplish with VB6/Delphi.

  • ddmf 2 years ago

    I remember writing a cgi app in delphi back in the late 90s to emulate our in house excel sheet that priced up a custom computer.

    Do you have any suggested reading for what you're suggesting because I'm just about to start a project and as we do a lot of our LOB apps in Delphi this seems useful?

    • mikewarot 2 years ago

      No, I don't have any suggested reading... just a plan of action should it be required. I'm assuming that enough work has been done that it should be possible to build a CRUD application in Pascal, and have it eventually produce working WASM executable code.

      I have some existing code in pascal[1]... and it would be helpful for it to run in the browser.... lemme see how bad it is making this happen. It'll take a few days, I think.

      [1] https://github.com/mikewarot/Bitgrid

      • mikewarot 2 years ago

        Turns out I was able to get something to work in about 2 hours... just after the HN edit window closed. Here's a really small Hello World in Pascal --> WASM --> Web Page you can see the output from, all in a GitHub repo.[1]

        [1] https://github.com/mikewarot/fpc_wasm

shreedx 2 years ago

SvelteKit + Supabase to do it quick and dirty. Since I am not the best programmer out there (my day to day job is product owner), it allows me to actually finish my projects and validate them with the market within days instead of months.

I can totally see how a senior fullstack dev would have a completely different approach though.

  • jcarrillo 2 years ago

    I’m curious why you think this approach is “dirty”. I can see the “quick” part. Care to share?

CharlesW 2 years ago

I just went through this and settled on Vue, TypeScript, and Vite for a rewrite of a PHP app. I can recommend that stack.

Vite and TypeScript were new to me. I'd briefly used a older version of Vue for something. I currently deploy to Vercel, but don't have any Vercel dependencies.

I used Phind, ChatGPT, GitHub Copilot extensively in order to understand the "AI pair programming" experience. They were helpful for suggesting solutions and helping understand mistakes. Just to set expectations, the flow was less "problem→solution", and more "problem→try this→iterate→try this→iterate→solution".

  • MH15 2 years ago

    Vite and Typescript are truly incredible. The state of frontend is improving somewhat.

replwoacause 2 years ago

I might be the only one in here with an answer like this, but PowerShell and the Pode framework. I am super productive with it, as much so as in any other language, and it plays nice with the rest of my stack (Tailwind, HTMX, SQLite.) I can leverage the .NET framework and C# libraries when I need to and can iterate quickly. All of this runs on the latest version of Ubuntu LTS. Obviously, this won’t work for everyone but for my purposes I haven’t been able to beat it and it makes me happy.

  • majkinetor 2 years ago

    Very nice. I used pode for for some of my infrastructure services. Anything to show?

    • replwoacause 2 years ago

      I wish, but right now it is all internal company stuff. I'd like to build something publicly accessible with it someday though so maybe I'll do a Show HN if I have something worth releasing.

dwb 2 years ago

Depends on project requirements of course and it's been a little while since I used them in anger, but sounds like Rails and Postgres are still going strong so I'd probably pick those. If something like React was strictly necessary I'd use React plus the most vanilla TypeScript stack, but I'd use only Rails' built-in stuff if at all possible. I don't know exactly about hosting but I'd probably go for something like Render or Heroku.

traverseda 2 years ago

Django/flask/qaurt (depending on what features I need), htmx, and any more complicated stuff (client side terminal emulator, client side text editor) wrapped in individual web components. Probably use sakura.css to start with for css.

scosman 2 years ago

SvelteKit + hosted Postgres (supabase, neon)

Very fast to get going and nice developer experience. Love jamstack style hosting. Scales from simple static site generator that is free to host, to live APIs/dynamic pages, and back again without changing frameworks. Can make beautiful pages that load in 100ms and 30kb.

Currently using tailwind css because it also compiles (like svelte) and only ships what you use to the client.

jmstfv 2 years ago

I built my business on Rails/SQLite/Sidekiq+Redis.

Hetzner (bare metal) for hosting. Bash script for provisioning a server. Vanilla JavaScript only when necessary. Tailwind for design. nanoc for generating a static site.

If I were to start again, I'd pick the same stack again. It just works and gets out of the way.

exabrial 2 years ago

For internet facing webapps where infinite customization of html/css is important: Jakarta EE: Java 17/CDI/Quarkus for the backend, HTMX for the frontend. Quarkus is now standards based and has a large community. Java executes at near CPP speed but with memory safety. Java has the literal best debugger in the industry and also the combination of CDI and Mockito make writing true unit tests easy and fast. It literally has everything.

Honestly though, the vast majority of webapps I implement are "boring" and the technology behind them needs to be boring and focus on productivity and maintainability. For this I usually select JakarataEE and JSF/Primefaces. Component based frameworks like this are stupid easy to slap together forms and business processes for internal webapps.

  • MichaelNolan 2 years ago

    Are you sticking with java 17 for a specific reason instead of java 21/latest? Besides that I agree with everything you wrote, Java is an incredible ecosystem.

    • nogridbag 2 years ago

      Quarkus only officially supported Java 21 a few days ago. I'm planning on upgrading our app this week.

    • exabrial 2 years ago

      17 for the minute, although Tomcat already has support for virtual threads

janosdebugs 2 years ago

Something boring, well documented, and widely used. The more boring the better. I'd avoid hotshot stacks like the plague because they are usually immature and tend to change quickly.

Ideally, I'd pick something that has OpenAPI as a first class citizen or code generation, including validation.

iamcalledrob 2 years ago

It would depend whether the web app is a "dynamic website" or a "super interactive app that happens to run in a browser".

For a website, it'd be Go + HTML/CSS (sprinkling JS where needed). Here's why: (1) Code will "just build" years later (2) Deployment is stupidly easy -- just build to a single binary with all resources embedded (3) Everything about the stack is stable and easy to reason about. Though perhaps not exciting.

For a "web app", I feel there are no great options. The half life of the JS ecosystem is about 5 minutes, so whatever you start with will be out of fashion shortly after. React has had some staying power, though isn't without its flaws. I generally feel like most "web apps" could actually be websites though.

edg5000 2 years ago

Two recent projects I wrote in C++20 using my own HTTP library. Only dependencies are a JSON library and a HTML template library (only used in one project). For these projects I used my own Postgres C++20 library.

Another recent project I did in mostly pure Java, with only a third-party library for SMTP email sending, and a library for using HTML templates.

IDE is VSCode with clangd as linter, and gcc as compiler, and CMake as build system. For Java, I use the RedHat VSCode plugin.

Frontend in pure TypeScript, with an icon library.

Challenges I encountered: - Statically checking data structures between frontend and backend. This needs code generation. And there was a lot of code repetition for shared data structures between front- and backend. - More database abstraction would be good.

Other than that it all runs great.

achandlerwhite 2 years ago

.NET 8 on my mac using Rider.

It’s not the .NET Framework you might remember from the 2000’s.

memchr 2 years ago

I would choose Remix based solely on my assessment of the integrity and personal character of the people I’ve met who use it, which I suspect is similar to those who created it.

  • gardenhedge 2 years ago

    I would also choose Remix. Logical routing with a really simple retrieve/update pattern (loaders and actions).

lobo_tuerto 2 years ago

Elixir, Phoenix (+LiveView), Tailwind CSS and PostgreSQL. :)

filestorage 2 years ago

Frontend: Angular or Vue, deployed on AWS S3 bucket + cloudfront (for https)

Backend: AWS Appsync (or AWS API Gateway) integrated with AWS Lambdas written in Golang. Authentication through AWS Cognito. DB: anything serverless from AWS (Dynamodb, Aurora etc.)

This way the app would be 100% serverless, no need for effort to scale it or to maintain the infrastructure (apart from automating the ifrastructure through AWS CDK).

  • mattrighetti 2 years ago

    You won’t need a lot of effort to scale even with a Go backend deployed on an EC2 instance in the majority of cases.

    Serverless is cool when you start with 300 users and you’re still in the free tier plan. After that, it’s going to cost you a fortune when you really need to scale, and I’m not even thinking about the time that you would need to waste writing everything back to a monolith/microservice, because that is what’s going to happen most likely.

    • definitelyauser 2 years ago

      I wrote a Go application to run on AWS lambda, but also compileable as a monolith.

      Was fun running on lamba etc, until as you say, the costs starts soaring massively. Moved it to a cheap VPS and never looked back.

coreyp_1 2 years ago

I loved Drupal back in the day, but at some point (D8+, part of it moving to Symfony), it became too difficult to manage and for me personally to keep up with.

But I believe that, in the early days, Drupal made excellent foundational design choices as a framework, and if you used it's APIs in your custom module development, then, generally speaking, you would have a secure website.

But now, D7 is approaching EOL, and I absolutely don't want to migrate to the latest flavor. D7 has been rock solid for a decade, and I have no desire to chase the latest fad.

I wish that there were a stable, monolithic solution that is simpler to setup (as in including everything, including database, webserver, SSL certs, etc.) that just worked and was extendable and overridable programmatically, in the same way that Drupal was.

Modern web stacks have become a bucket of Lego pieces that seems ok if you are an expert in everything and know how to put everything together exactly. The problem is, most people aren't experts in form handling, login and authentication, media handling, caching, etc.

em-bee 2 years ago

depends on the goal:

if the passion is to learn some new tech then well, there are lots of options, i'd pick something that i haven't worked with yet.

if it is something where the passion is in the content, i would use the same old stack that i used for my last few projects. in my case that is aurelia+custom backend which is a reusable object storage and user management platform, where i didn't need to add any project specific features for some time now.

if i could not use that backend, i would pick something that makes it easy to manage objects through a REST API.

if i had to evaluate a new framework then the main thing that i would look for is the ability to minimize or avoid any dependency on build tools.

unfortunately, with the rapid evolution in frontend frameworks there is also a rapid evolution in build tools. that just adds extra effort to maintain a site for more than a few years.

without buildtools getting in the way i can maintain a site with minimal effort, and i know it will still be running in a decade from now.

oooyay 2 years ago

I use Typescript and Python. Usually Svelte or Vue and Django. For Async components of the backend I write components in Go.

pplonski86 2 years ago

Backend in Django Rest Framework. Postgres as db. Frontend Typescript and React. Deployment with docker compose on AWS.

Nezteb 2 years ago

Elixir, Phoenix (with Ecto and Postres), LiveView.

Functional programming, pattern matching, and immutability make life a lot easier.

calvinmorrison 2 years ago

depends on the app but Laravel + something.

It's all built in, you can buy packages that implement most SaaS features out of the box, authentication, 2 factor, all the crap you need is rolled in as packages.

I would stick with something like Orchid for admin type CRUD apps as there is ZERO html/js knowledge required.

for a public app - I would still use Orchid on the backend and then on the frontend use something simple with blade templates and controllers.

PHP is a lot better than it was, Laravel developers are easy to find, the stack is very well understood, and it's flexible enough to build whatever you want.

EDIT: I just wanted to add 99% of "apps" are not retail facing but are internal apps or business to business type apps that solve a specific business niche. For that, I only care about how fast and easy is it to stand up and implement that specific business logic.

tdriver 2 years ago

I built this site recently with Blazor: https://gpsoutage.com It runs completely on the client and is hosted for free on Azure. There is a lot of support for Blazor and as a .Net backend dev, I didn't have to learn too much front-end code. I'd definitely choose Blazor again.

briandoesdev 2 years ago

I've really been into what I call the "HAG" stack: HTMX, Alpine.JS, Go.

It's simplicity has been a fresh of breath air. I love Go and being able to use it for almost the entire web app is amazing. I am excited for the upcoming router enhancements Go has proposed, that will let me move off Chi router. I try to stay as close to the std lib as possible. Though, the `templ` package is amazing and I very much will continue to use it when possible.

For my database I use `libsql` by Turso with server mode.

As for deployment, I just dockerize the app and the database then run them as two separate components in a Docker App.

Makes it a simple and easy to develop and deploy updates.

Glench 2 years ago

I used SvelteKit, but it would be nice if there was something like rails on top of SvelteKit that brought database connections / models, admin screens, etc.

SvelteKit is the best combination of front-and-backend in terms of performance and developer usability that I've found.

d-z-m 2 years ago

Go for backend, HTML template files for frontend + Alpine.js for reactivity. Probably custom/classless CSS as I'm falling out of love w/ Tailwind. Probably would deploy on EC2.

If I was trying to learn something new, I'd experiment with solid.js or htmx.

HerrBertling 2 years ago

Last thing I built is using SST for some lightweight recurring TypeScript lambda functions + DynamoDB for data storage. Plus a very simple one-page Remix + TailwindCSS frontend because deployment of that through SST is a breeze as well. It is the stuff I know and can easily handle.

For anything new, I'd try Phoenix to see what I can achieve with Elixir and a non-React/Vue frontend.

ivan_gammel 2 years ago

Depends on business scope, growth model etc. My default option is Java/Spring Boot/PostgreSQL for BE with HATEOAS API, Typescript/Angular SPA for FE if personalized experience is required. If it’s about just serving some almost static webpages, then some SSG+headless CMS with a bit of vanilla.js.

Choice of stack is simple: it may not be the best in class or fancy choice, but it’s close enough, allows simple infrastructure setup, quick start with rapid iterations and easy to go from 1 dev setup to a team. More importantly I have a lot of experience with this stack, so I can focus on business rather than on learning new technology.

FractalHQ 2 years ago

Loving seeing so many Sveltekit + Postgres posts! Truly hard to top the dream team.

jcutrell 2 years ago

Sinatra, flask, or Laravel. Something that gives me a direct control over routes and allows me to opt-in to magic when I want or need it. Dynamic language.

Depending on the frontend need, I might go with straight server rendering static pages. So often the big stack of rendering contexts and HOCs and blah blah blah just gets in the way. Rendering a view shouldn’t be difficult, and progressive enhancement is easier starting from strict HTML + well structured CSS.

I love React, I’d be happy to try Svelte… my fear in not doing that would be “when we eventually need it, it’s difficult to opt in progressively” (which is terrible).

lucidone 2 years ago

Laravel or Rails spitting out Blade or ERB templates respectively. As a solo dev you have everything you need in both ecosystems and you aren't doing 2x the work with a separate front end and back end.

mooreds 2 years ago

Either one that I wanted to learn or one that I knew.

Which of those depends on whether the focus of the passion was exploration of new tech to make an impact on my understanding of tech or exploitation of existing tech to make an impact on the world.

If it was the former, today I'd probably learn Rust + whatever webapp stack is popular in that language. Seems to make some pretty interesting guarantees around programming and is blazing fast.

If it was the latter, I'd pick rails. Nothing in my experience beats rails for productivity for a bog standard webapp.

lgkk 2 years ago

I’d use whatever scales best for the least cost.

Go backend. Single binary. Big performance. I’d use Go for as many things as possible until I actually had a need for distinct technologies (queues, redis, etc.). Throw embedded db into the mix and you shouldn’t have any problems for a long time.

React UI on cloudflare pages. Free. Easy.

Postgres. Single node goes far. Great plug n play extensions. Same as with Go I can push this pretty far until there is some serious requirement to do something else.

Deploy on either cheap bare metal or an affordable provider like DO.

  • cookiengineer 2 years ago

    Do you by any chance know whether there's something like a go library or converter/transpiler that allows you to reuse the structs from a backend on the client side?

    Currently I always have a little redundancy in my projects when it comes to the JS HTTP client that calls the golang backend's API and I want to avoid that.

    • lgkk 2 years ago

      Not that I am aware of. If there is one I’d try it out.

      I usually just make the types by hand on TS client.

      Maybe gpt :p

ivory54321 2 years ago

I have just launched a relatively straightforward webapp that required a light touch front end with fairly significant data processing on the backend

- Backend: Django (Postgres in production) + Celery to handle async tasks - Frontend: HTML (standard django renderer), CSS, HTMX + occasional jQuery - Deployment: Render

I was already familiar with Python and I feel the language is more than capable to handle the data processing required and with Django I could concentrate on the actual app functionality without diving too much into auth etc

mixandgo 2 years ago

I'd use Ruby on Rails with Hotwire. For building a SaaS quickly, it's my go-to framework.

rasulkireev 2 years ago

What you know best!

For me it would be:

*Django* for backend with the built-in templates. No frontend backend split.

TailwindCSS for styling.

StimulusJS for sprinkling JS wherever needed, which is not very often.

Postgres as my DB (although if I'm not integrating Stripe, SQLite will suffice).

Maybe Redis for caching and as a broker for background tasks, if needed.

phartenfeller 2 years ago

SvelteKit + SQLite for me. SvelteKit is easy to pick up and their standards make sense to me.

Of course SQLite has limits but it takes a lot of complexity or concurrent users to come close to them.

1-2-3-5-8 2 years ago

If it is my money/time then I'll choose Django, Rails or Phoenix.

If it was a big corporate with deep pockets then I'll (or they'll force me to) go with React, Angular etc.

hevisko 2 years ago

Fishing tackle - much easier to go fishing than to navigate today's stacks and interfaces.

edimoldovan 2 years ago

Go Std, HTML + plain CSS + vanilla JS if needed. No build steps.

meiraleal 2 years ago

Just pure ol' JavaScript with a couple libraries.

Frontend: Lit and Tailwind (in reality, unocss, a tailwind runtime that doesn't need build)

Database: indexeddb + some CRDT

Backend: no backend, webrtc to sync between devices without a central server

Hosting: Github and cloudflare cache, the app has a functionality to deploy itself, generating a minified tailwind CSS and if needed, a "SSR" version of it (but without hydration, this is the part of the frontend craziness that I don't wanna get close).

hotshoe 2 years ago

React on the front-end because of eco; Fastify on the backend w/ Postgres. I host React w/ Remix for light-duty SSR, but real work gets done on the backend. I'm moving away from metaframeworks as single solution -- they're easy, but keeping biz logic on the be makes it much easier to swap out fe and better for testability IMO. I'll prob shift over to Solid once / if Start ever ships, else Qwik.

mar1n3r0 2 years ago

Go + wasm(https://github.com/maxence-charriere/go-app) + IPFS + orbitdb

BerislavLopac 2 years ago

Personally, I'd go with https://pyapi-server.readthedocs.io

jvatic 2 years ago

I'm surprised nobody said they'd use [Yew](https://yew.rs/), especially given the premise of this being for a passion project.

dinkleberg 2 years ago

Go using the Gin framework. I’d use SQLite until I had a compelling reason not to. Server side rendering using pongo2 templates. Vanilla js and Htmx where appropriate.

I’ve built several projects like this and just started another one and it is by far my favorite stack.

I don’t like spending time fighting frameworks, so I like to keep my stack as minimal as possible. Thankfully the Go ecosystem pretty uniformly shares that ideology.

austin-cheney 2 years ago

Instead of thinking about tech stack think about the problem you want solved. Most devs think about tech stack first and so all they do is read from a database and struggle to put text on screen. Then once that climb that mountain their product looks identical to everything else and is limited to putting text on screen at considerably inflated expense.

ramikalai 2 years ago

I started work on a passion project recently and chose to use Next.JS on Vercel. It's new to me and so there was a little bit of a learning curve but that was part of the fun.

Seems super simple to get up and running and let's you focus on the product itself rather than the stack.

Alternative answer: Use whatever you're most familiar/comfortable with.

jareklupinski 2 years ago

I've been meaning to try Django (mit Postgres) + HTMX + Alpine + Tailwind for a while, and while I don't typically write a django admin page, https://github.com/unfoldadmin/django-unfold at least puts them in the same box for me to start playing with

necatiozmen 2 years ago

For the frontend, there is React framework called refine for building CRUD apps like admin panel and internal tools

https://github.com/refinedev/refine

It has built-in integrations for UI libraries and data providers. You can select your stack

quickthrower2 2 years ago

NextJS again!

I keep changing my mind. Part of me wants to use old school tech. But I do like the DX of Next.

NextJS tends to make sites that need JS on the front end. And probably bigger bundles than an old school MVC job. I will take that hit though for some of the positives of working in React and productivity and modernness and community of great work around React.

very_good_man 2 years ago

Rails 7.1 deploy with Kamal to a low cost place.

eternityforest 2 years ago

It would definitely either be TS or Python.

I think I might use Bootstrap but I'd heavily customize theming.

Probably SvelteKit or Vue for the frontend. Most likely SvelteKit.

SQLite or a flat file database for sure.

I think what I would do is use Tornado to serve SvelteKit pages, if I went with Python.

Definitely a monorepo for front and back end. Probably I'd try to do zero server side templating.

modeless 2 years ago

I just started trying out Bun and its focus on speed plus broad compatibility makes it an absolute pleasure to use so far. For hosting I haven't started yet but think I might try fly.io with LiteFS as database. Just for fun, I wouldn't choose it for a work project until I've tested it out.

karakanb 2 years ago

Laravel Jetstream with Inertia + Postgres, for sure. It is the most productive setup I have found for myself as a solo dev trying to deliver a full web app. If it is more like a backend-only setup, an API or sth, I tend to default to Go these days due to the speed and ease of deployment.

mattrighetti 2 years ago

If it’s a personal project, I would pick and try out the latest trends that I’ve been keeping an eye on.

I’m planning to try out HTMX + a backend written either in Rust or Go. Since it’s a passion project it doesn’t necessarily need to be out there for thousands of users, so I’ll go with SQLite.

yetanother12345 2 years ago

Exactly the same "tech stack" as I used before that term became popular:

    - HTML
    - JS (Ecma Script, not some "framework")
    - CSS (not "Typescript" or whatever, standard CSS)
For backend I'd use PHP. Yes, PHP.

Edit: The same would apply for $job

  • pxeger1 2 years ago

    Typescript and CSS are orthogonal. I think you’ve misunderstood what typescript is, or had a brain fart / typo.

yieldcrv 2 years ago

T3 stack, with bun

(Typescript, tRPC, Tailwinds

Next.js React, Prisma, Zod

Bun)

Client and server in one project and language. All the trendy, still free, easier to use compute instances let you deploy javascript server projects. Many don't support other stacks like Java or Python. Heroku supports python but no longer has a free tier.

Narciss 2 years ago

T3 stack with MUI deployed to vercel + Postgres (I use supabase) My latest projects are built with it, but I also use a very similar stack at my work so it’s easy to pick it up.

Also, this stack is free if using vercel + supabase until you reach an BIG userbase

o_m 2 years ago

Frontend: Remix or Next.js with server components

Backend: ASP.NET Web API (REST). Only calling these APIs from the backend-for-frontend Node code.

Hosting: Everything at one Cloud provider, either Azure or AWS. No SaaS-services.

Database: Postgres

Infra: Terraform or Bicep for infratructure as code, and Docker.

ja27 2 years ago

I'm a simple man. Node/Express with probably MariaDB and React. Maybe give Tailwind a spin. Same with next.js if I had the time.

Would prefer go on the backend but language switching when doing frontend at the same time is a bit of a pain.

throwaway167 2 years ago

Yesod/Haskell for the backend, backbone.js for front end. Oracle for DB.

RalfWausE 2 years ago

Well, i am currently building a little App for my job that is also a bit of a passion project, well, i am building using the Internetcomputer and the motoko language in the backend and vanilla JS and html in the frontend.

v3ss0n 2 years ago

Litestar + HTMX

Litestar + Svelte

SQLAlchemy

Haystack

https://litestar.dev

vandyswa 2 years ago

No extras. Hand written JS, CSS, and HTML. Backend use CGI or for long polling type apps, golang and an HTTP server module. Or Python and its batteries-included HTTP server (but I'm moving away from Python).

schappim 2 years ago

Rails + Postgres w/ [1] jumpstartrails

[1] https://jumpstartrails.com

devhe4d 2 years ago

Something that I am good / fast at

agonzalezro 2 years ago

Phoenix & its Liveview. Backed by Postgres or even SQLite for some use-cases.

Minor49er 2 years ago

I'm going to be working on a niche search site soon. For it, I'm planning on using PHP, Nginx, Postgres, and Typesense for the back end and probably React for the front end

lsferreira42 2 years ago

I've been in love with:

Backend: Golang standard lib, gorilla/mux for routing Front: htmx + tailwind

If i need a database, i tend to start with redis, then sqlite and ONLY if it scale, postgres!!

hknmtt 2 years ago

i cannot answer objectively for obvious reasons. but i am very happy with Go back-end, Quasar front-end, JSON for message formatting and MariaDB for data storage. I have made couple of project in this manner, in addition to previous ones, so I am very happy with this setup and cannot really imagine trying anything else that would work better. Quasar can be also built into a mobile app which is another bonus.

dewbrite 2 years ago

My last full stack passion project I used Axum for the backend/API, Mithril.js with Coffeescript for the frontend, then S3* and Meilisearch for data storage.

maia_g 2 years ago

FE: Svelte. BE: Go, Postgres. Keeping it fairly simple.

0xblinq 2 years ago

Laravel + Hotwire if working alone or with a small team. Laravel + Inertia if working on a large team or with dedicated backend and frontend teams.

owenpalmer 2 years ago

Supabase + Flutter is a stack I can highly recommend if you want to get off the ground fast. Both are extremely intuitive to get started with.

absqueued 2 years ago

Lately its been Fastify, Postgres and Svelte Kit.

Also tried Remix for a few smaller projects - didnt really fly but was quick to develop.

Fastify has been game changer for me.

nathants 2 years ago

picking a stack isn’t enough. you need to codify it and build tooling around it so you can completely forget how it works. picking it up cold after a year should be just as easy as picking it up from yesterday. mine is here[1].

1. https://github.com/nathants/aws-gocljs

wruza 2 years ago

With all these modern frameworks and stacks, most of the practical AI UI tools were made with gradio. Interesting contrast.

j0hnyl 2 years ago

The last few web apps I've built:

Flask / HTMX / Pico.css / Postgres or Sqlite

Dockerized so that it's easy to spin up.

Edit: Caddy for webserver.

  • HuwFulcher 2 years ago

    Interesting that you mention Pico. I really like it (my personal site uses it) but it doesn’t strike me as the go to choice for a web app?

    • j0hnyl 2 years ago

      I guess my needs are relatively basic. I like that all I have to do is include it and things look presentable out of the box without me having to do much design work. What are your choices for more complex projects?

      • HuwFulcher 2 years ago

        Definitely agree that it’s a breath of fresh air to just write HTML and it look good.

        For more complex projects it’s normally Tailwind

moltar 2 years ago

- TypeScript end to end

- infra on AWS via AWS CDK TypeScript

- backend domain plain TypeScript

- frontend plain React, no framework (TSX)

- database RDS Aurora serverless v2 (Postgres)

- monorepo using pnpm

randomdev3 2 years ago

Go, postgres/MySQL,static Vue frontend

JohnBooty 2 years ago

Literally anything, thanks to ChatGPT/CoPilot/etc.

Choosing a stack has always been a balance between "what you are currently productive in" and "the best possible tool for the job."

These days, assuming you have a base level of skill and experience, it's like 2-10x easier to get up to speed in a brand new stack thanks to those AI coding buddies

Your current competencies still matter and always will, but today, IMO we're way more free to choose the "best" tool and assume that we can get up to speed quickly.

Putting that aside, I still think Rails is amazing for "most" webby stuff. Would consider Flask if I needed things from the Python ecosystem. Or I guess Phoenix if I needed that massive concurrency. Would pair them with Postgres and/or Redis as needed.

For frontend... Vue? Or maybe just server-side rendering if I could get away with it.

taf2 2 years ago

I’d start with rails. It stays out of the way while providing all the core features necessary to grow.

patches11 2 years ago

Next.js, material-ui, trpc

Most of what you need to get something functional and not totally ugly, not a lot that you don’t.

maxbrydak 2 years ago

HTMX for the front end Go for the backend Postgres for DB Redis for cache

JakeAl 2 years ago

Remember APE. The right medium is always the most

Accessible Powerful cost Effective

relative to your audience and available resources.

pylua 2 years ago

I am surprised I haven’t seen angular listed here.

I would pick flutter / istio / booternetes / helm

kamma4434 2 years ago

Elixir with Liveview, or any server side you know well (in my case it’s Java/jsp) with Htmx.

pier25 2 years ago

Depends on the app.

Probably Laravel with Livewire and Lit for creating interactive widgets. Postgres for the db.

xjidjccudux 2 years ago

Htmx+tailwind with rust/leptos serverside. Avoiding JS as much as possible.

Exuma 2 years ago

Posting here so I can refer back to this...

sim04ful 2 years ago

The ReactJS + Typescript + Rust + LMDB combo just works so well for me.

vandyswa 2 years ago

Do note sqlite3 suffices up to a surprisingly demanding workload.

rahlokzero 2 years ago

Today: Expo for web and native, with a FastAPI backend.

Tomorrow: Who knows.

leosanchez 2 years ago

ASP.NET Core MVC + htmlx. Tailwind, ansible, docker

Vanclief 2 years ago

Fronted: React Backend: Golang Database: PostgreSQL

rio2 2 years ago

Backend: Go, SQLite

Frontend: Flutter

If Flutter is not possible or suitable than htmx + bulma (or w3c, pico etc..).

cvalka 2 years ago

Go + htmlx + TiDb or YugabyteDB

qq99 2 years ago

SolidStart or Qwik, + postgres

lylejantzi3rd 2 years ago

Does anybody still use Perl 5?

Dansvidania 2 years ago

i am using svelte and firebase

stephane-klein 2 years ago

I just started a project and chose this stack:

- SSR SvelteKit with Hydration (https://github.com/sveltejs/kit)

- PostgreSQL database server

- Postgres.js - PostgreSQL client for Node.js (https://github.com/porsager/postgres)

- Migration powered by graphile-migrate (https://github.com/graphile/migrate)

- PostgreSQL Row-Level Security (https://www.postgresql.org/docs/16/ddl-rowsecurity.html)

- svelte-headlessui (https://github.com/rgossiaux/svelte-headlessui)

- sveltekit-i18n (https://github.com/sveltekit-i18n/lib)

- TailwindCSS (https://tailwindcss.com/)

- Superforms (https://superforms.rocks/)

- sveltekit-flash-message + svelte-french-toast (https://github.com/ciscoheat/sveltekit-flash-message + https://github.com/kbrgl/svelte-french-toast)

Tooling :

- asdf (https://asdf-vm.com/)

- Docker and Docker Compose

- NodeJS

- pnpm

- Jest for unittest

All deployed on a VM at Scaleway (https://www.scaleway.com/en/) with Bash script (https://github.com/stephane-klein/sveltekit-tendaro-webshell...)

After 3 months of development on this stack, I'm very satisfied. My application is fast, light and requires very little code.

Project skeleton example: https://github.com/stephane-klein/sveltekit-tendaro-webshell...

paxys 2 years ago

BE - Go

FE - Typescript, React, Tailwind

DB - Postgres

Cache - Memcached

Server/Routing - Envoy

madduci 2 years ago

jQuery for frontend, backend in SpringBoot or Quarkus

phendrenad2 2 years ago

php, heroku, mysql, redis, cron2go.

porridgeraisin 2 years ago

- Node

- Either vanilla js or vue.

In a while, s/node/bun

Go on the server is fine as well.

andrewstuart 2 years ago

Nodejs

Plain SQL with Postgres

React

lexoj 2 years ago

Go + HTMX (DB Postgres or Sqlite)

ta456457547 2 years ago

Spring Boot and Thymeleaf. The JS ecosystem has gone to utter shite.

peter-m80 2 years ago

Next.js. I consider it the industry standard

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