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Ask HN: Is This a Viable Meta-Killer?

3 points by dj_perl 2 years ago · 23 comments · 2 min read


How to kill Meta ================

Have you seen the movie "True Lies", starring Jamie Lee Curtis and Arnold Schwarzenegger?

There's a scene where Arnold, who is being held hostage and interrogated under a Truth serum, tells his captors exactly how he plans to kill them in the next few seconds. He follows through.

In the same spirit, I am disclosing the following to Mark Zuckerberg:

1. Legally, after what he did to FB users data, and appeared before Congress like a contrite little schoolboy, he is obligated to release a user's data to the user, if they so request.

2. I plan to create a migration path for users from FaceBook to the Fediverse. This migration path will be available at the click of a button.

3. I will take out ads, on FaceBook, to convince people to switch to the Fediverse, and offer them a one-click migration button. Pushing that button will take all your data and social network, and move it to the Fediverse, intact.

4. The Social Network is now free from the grasp of a corporation that arbitrarily censors Free Speech. Free from shady closed source algorithms that determine who sees what on the platform. Free from commercials for products that basically pollute the environment, from the factory to the landfill, for shallow consumerism. Free at last!

So I ask you — Am I missing something in this prison break plan?

orbz 2 years ago

A noble goal, don’t give up your dreams. You will however have to account for the following:

- You don’t have the public reputation to convince people to trust you over others.

- It’s unlikely you’d be able to host a fediverse instance able to handle that many users.

- You can’t export their whole social network, it’s nothing unless everyone in their network migrates and is properly linked on the other side.

- Your ads will be denied as is their right to do so.

- Free speech gets real ugly, real fast, without moderation and the tools to moderate at scale. The people who stick around unmoderated spaces will actively push out others.

  • dj_perlOP 2 years ago

    - You don’t have the public reputation to convince people to trust you over others.

    I'm a geek, not a social media influencer. True technological meritocracy over image. Good ideas speak for themselves. Maybe even the people we don't know/like/trust can teach us something, if we're willing to separate the idea from the person.

    Here's one related idea: https://blog.ownlifeful.com/2021/12/direct-democracy-re-imag...

    - It’s unlikely you’d be able to host a fediverse instance able to handle that many users.

    Maybe the ad on FaceBook will have an onboarding quiz to ask the user about their interests, and hook them up with the right Fediverse instance.

    - You can’t export their whole social network, it’s nothing unless everyone in their network migrates and is properly linked on the other side.

    Maybe there will be a registry ( I haven't thought about implementation details. centralized/decentralized. how is the authorization handled? ) that lets people seamlessly connect with their former facebook contacts. Like going to heaven to unite with your loved ones. ;-)

    - Your ads will be denied as is their right to do so.

    Is that right? This looks like a job for me. So everybody, just follow me.

    - Free speech gets real ugly, real fast, without moderation and the tools to moderate at scale. The people who stick around unmoderated spaces will actively push out others.

    https://kolektiva.social/@ashwin/110671528116415354

    Again, I really appreciate your constructive criticism. Please ask me more questions.

    • minimaxir 2 years ago

      > Good ideas speak for themselves.

      That is not how the world works.

      Each one of your responses indicates that you don't understand the dynamics of social networks. I suggest you read more into them before trying to make your own to compete with Facebook.

bell-cot 2 years ago

> I will take out ads, on FaceBook, to convince people to switch to the Fediverse, and ...

Don't be surprised when ~zero people are actually convinced by your ads. And ~zero percent of the few you do convince actually stick around long-term, after noticing that ~none of their friends & family are in your Fediverse.

  • dj_perlOP 2 years ago

    Thanks for your constructive criticism. Addressed this concern a couple of replies above.

toast0 2 years ago

> Pushing that button will take all your data and social network, and move it to the Fediverse, intact.

If I push that button, all of my friends' posts will appear on the Fediverse? How does that respect the privacy and distribution rights of my friends?

PS with a name like Fediverse, I assume this is for (US) federal employees only?

bryan_w 2 years ago

> a corporation that arbitrarily censors Free Speech.

Ah, those tells me everything i need to know.

minimaxir 2 years ago

Why would the average Facebook user care about the Fediverse?

yuppie_scum 2 years ago

Let us know how that works out.

devonnull 2 years ago

All the best with that ...

nektro 2 years ago

the plan on how you get anyone to click on the button

nektro 2 years ago

the plan on how you will fund it

version_five 2 years ago

What about your handcuffs?

  • dj_perlOP 2 years ago

    Does Zuck like to be handcuffed while being drilled? There will be handcuffs for sure, for that kinky bad boy.

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