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Rooting the Amazon Echo Dot

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68 points by ProZsolt 2 years ago · 10 comments

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vongomben 2 years ago

I wonder how easy and reliable is to run open source voice assistants on it.

latchkey 2 years ago

> "For most customers, the existence of this rooting solution should not be a big issue. It would take considerable technical knowledge and physical access for a moderate period of time for an attacker to be able to carry out this attack."

Is this glossing over the concept of replacing an existing unit with a rooted unit? Enemy realizes you have one of these in your house. They break into your house while you're gone and replace your existing one with their hacked one.

Edit to clarify: It sounds like the responses to my comment are missing what I'm focused on. My point isn't about the feasibility or sanity of such the idea that I gave as an example. My point is about the OP skipping over other possibilities as a justification for their action.

  • pakyr 2 years ago

    If you have an enemy that's committed and skilled enough to break into your house undetected while you're not there just to listen in on you, I feel like they could just plant a bug or something.

    • serf 2 years ago

      in theory a software rooted echo would be superior to a bug; fairly high quality positioning by the victim which ensures good quality recordings and a fair amount of plausible deniability opportunities by the attacker. if discovery was considered inevitable software can be tripped into wiping data or reverting states.

    • sublinear 2 years ago

      These are not mutually exclusive ideas and replacing an existing device is much harder to detect.

  • franga2000 2 years ago

    You'd need the rooted unit to be logged into the user's Amazon account and have their wifi password, otherwise they'd notice something is wrong quite quickly. Yes, most would probably just redo the setup and forget about it, but that's still quite a risk and requires a lot of access.

  • Dragon863 2 years ago

    Hi! Author here. Yes, whilst it is possible, you would have to boot the device using a computer every time, which renders it a pretty useless spy bug. It also wouldn't function as expected, whilst it would appear to be muted, pressing the button again would not work and it would only function normally after a reboot with a computer. Having said this, I guess it would be possible to have the script wipe itself and reflash the modified partitions when mute is pressed so it works as normal again after a reboot.

  • spoonjim 2 years ago

    You don’t need to root the device for that attack vector. Just put whatever device you want inside an Echo Dot case and pass the audio through to Alexa so that it behaves as expected.

  • jstanley 2 years ago

    If you're allowed to break in and replace it, do you even need to root it? Just hide your own separate listening device in their house.

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