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Ask HN: Why is it difficult to recite the alphabet backwards, but not numbers?

2 points by asynchronyse 3 years ago · 6 comments


anonymouskimmer 3 years ago

Just my 2 cents.

Numbers are used in a sequential manner naturally, and more importantly we subtract numbers from each other all the time. Basically, we have practice. Try reciting the major irrational numbers numerically backward. Until you've practiced, you might find it easier reciting them alphabetically backward.

I'm sure for children reciting numbers backward is about as difficult as reciting the first 10 letters of the alphabet backward.

To become facile with reciting the alphabet backward, I was taught to "chunk it" into small groups. ZYXW - VUTS - RQ - PON - MLK - JIHG - FED - CBA. I can now recite it backward almost as easily as forward, without chunking, even if I start in the middle and not the end. The only part I still sometimes get caught on is the order of I and H.

  • drewbeck 3 years ago

    This chunking is also a big part of why singing the alphabet helps remember it, imo. There’s natural divisions in both the melody and the rhythm.

  • uberman 3 years ago

    When I was a kid I used that exact chunking to memorize it backwards as well.

    • anonymouskimmer 3 years ago

      I was explicitly taught to chunk it this way. I think it either has to do with whoever first spread the chunking method, or the fact that VUTS, PON, MLK, JIHG, and FED are either words or word like, making the memorization easier, with ZYXW, RQ, and CBA just leftover groupings of convenient size.

devsda 3 years ago

I would say practice but I think there's more to it.

For some initial numbers one might rely on memory but after a certain value we "calculate" the value and then its name automatically from small set of names for each part of a number's value.

In the case of alphabets there is no obvious sequence of alphabet in both directions. We might as well learn the alphabet in qwerty order without impacting its utility.

So, its difficult to recite the alphabet in any order other than the ones we memorized.

yuppie_scum 3 years ago

The alphabet is base-26

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