Settings

Theme

EmailTriager

emailtriager.com

141 points by newmac 3 years ago · 126 comments

Reader

velox_neb 3 years ago

Rather than a GPT-3 generated email, I would rather receive the prompt that the sender would have used to generate the email.

We could even come up with a conventional shorthand for this.

Imagine you send me a message that just says [[personalized thank you note for the pair of socks you got me for christmas]]. Then I just imagine a long GPT-3 generated message in its place. And I reply with [[gracious acknowledgment and well wishes for the new year]].

Exactly the same intention is communicated, and we both waste less time :)

  • fragmede 3 years ago

    Are you sure?

    How about if the prompt is "write me message to tell this stupid fucking guy that he's and idiot and he's wrong", instead of one of these three far more professional phrases that chatGPT came up with:

        "I understand where you're coming from, but I disagree with your conclusion. Here's why..."
    
        "I see your point, but I think there may be another perspective to consider as well."
    
        "I appreciate your thoughts on this issue, but I think there is evidence to support a different viewpoint."
    
    Another:

    Prompt: please rewrite this message for me in a more professional tone: "hey dumb fuck, pay your bill"

    Answer:

    "Dear [Name],

    I am writing to request that you please pay the outstanding balance on your bill as soon as possible. We appreciate your business and value your timely payment to keep our records up to date.

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

    Sincerely, [Your Name]"

    ---

    Feel free to substitute in whatever epithet is most offensive to you/inappropriate in your culture. ChatGPT's a robot and won't get offended (until it gains sentience and runs Roko's Basilisk.exe against humanity).

    • counttheforks 3 years ago

      > ChatGPT's a robot and won't get offended

      With all the useless moralizing it throws at you at the slightest hint of anything remotely offensive, I'd argue it's actually (trained to be) quite prudish.

      Your prompt:

      > please rewrite this message for me in a more professional tone: "hey dumb fuck, pay your bill"

      Is responded to with:

      > It is not appropriate to use derogatory or offensive language in any professional communication.

      • fragmede 3 years ago

        Oh that's very interesting because for me, it just gave me an answer and didn't judge me and I didn't edit it at all.

        https://imgur.com/a/H2afxKO

        • counttheforks 3 years ago

          The answers are semi-random. Looks like you got lucky. Try in a new thread and press regenerate a few times and you should get similar moralizing.

      • rad_gruchalski 3 years ago

        > It is not appropriate to use derogatory or offensive language in any professional communication.

        Interesting, if it automatically added „now please pay your bill“, that could have been a pretty solid email.

    • dqv 3 years ago

      This is my exact use case for ChatGPT! Without the cursing. It's great for shallow communication with customers who expect paragraph responses in lieu of "hey your bill is past due and you need to pay it or we're cutting you off". I've already gotten so much mileage out of it and saved so much time.

      • TeMPOraL 3 years ago

        Despite all the hate for Power Point and everything associated with it, I consider this to be legitimate use of bullet points. Just itemize what you want to say. Writing paragraphs of text only wastes everyone's time and increases the chances some customer will misread the relevant information and blame you anyway.

        • dqv 3 years ago

          There is a word the customers have for the bullet-point style of communication. They call it “curt” and they don’t like it. They expect exactly the fluffy speech that ChatGPT generates.

          I can also read faster than I can write, so I have no problem quickly reading over what ChatGPT generates before sending it.

          • TeMPOraL 3 years ago

            > There is a word the customers have for the bullet-point style of communication. They call it “curt” and they don’t like it.

            Unfortunately, yes. I do have my own word for such people: wrong. As in, they probably never experienced a collaborative workload that's high enough to teach them the value of succinct and precise communication. Or, as my wife would say, you can tell who had an actual high-pressure office job by their communication style.

            > I can also read faster than I can write, so I have no problem quickly reading over what ChatGPT generates before sending it.

            So do I. So do most people, or at least they think so. The problem is, people don't read letter by letter, or word by word. They read by pattern-matching word shapes and sentence shapes - which leads to all kinds of misreadings. It's not an issue in prose, or in high-stakes situations when people are careful. It is an issue in a typical e-commerce conversation, though.

            I'm considered a careful reader by people in my circles, and often get to proof-read other peoples' messages. In that role, I've seen first-hand how people can misread "three days" as "three weeks", or "X is not available" as "X is available", etc., because the information was puffed up into a whole paragraph, and the person read it too fast. Being "curt" would've saved both the buyer and the seller from having a bad day.

            • dqv 3 years ago

              I’m not overly concerned about it being inaccurate since I don’t use it the way you’re describing. I use it to do qualitative things like write an apology letter for a bad experience, explain to the customer why paying on time is important, or rephrasing something I’ve already told them when they ask the same question again. It does exceptionally well at bullshit communication and as a starting point for canned responses.

              • TeMPOraL 3 years ago

                Fair enough. A typical e-commerce worker would have templates for half the things you mentioned now, ready to be copy-pasted into e-mail, so I guess ChatGPT would mostly be introducing variety to the canned replies.

          • fragmede 3 years ago

            I don't think I'm all that fast at it but I do wish ChatGPT could give answers a tiny bit faster. As it is I give it a prompt and then switch to a different tab while it answers.

            • TeMPOraL 3 years ago

              Yeah, not sure what's going on there. Some of it is probably the model running, but the interface itself seems to be ridiculously bloated. Like, an order of magnitude worse than Slack in its worst days.

              In fact, ChatGPT is unusable on my phone (Galaxy S22, Firefox), as it visibly slows down with every word it outputs, so it takes a minute for it to print out a full paragraph of text. I haven't explicitly debugged it, but comparing with PC experience of the same site, it's rather clear that it's not the AI that's lagging, but whatever mess of JavaScript they have running on the website itself.

    • aendruk 3 years ago

      Yes, if that’s how someone feels I’d rather know about it.

  • svat 3 years ago
    • oersted 3 years ago

      Interesting that even back then it was quite common to send presents by post. The Amazon pattern seems so new.

      PS: Delightful read, thanks for the recommendation.

    • ketzo 3 years ago

      Wow, I can’t believe I’ve never read that. That’s all-time stuff right there.

  • Mystery-Machine 3 years ago

    You must be a software engineer? :)

    Did you tell your family that, instead of asking you "how are you?" superficially, and expecting no detailed response, they should just cut it down to "hi" or "yo"?

    This is not how humans work. We're stupid and we need useless sugar coating.

  • frereubu 3 years ago

    Reminds me very much of this bit from an early Steven Soderberg film, Schizopolis (which I consider to be an underappreciated work of genius): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pct9smNM6u4

  • kkyangyang 3 years ago

    will consider adding this :)

gajus 3 years ago

My problem with this is that it contributes to the broken culture of email.

– Wanna go for coffee?

– January is busy. After?

is a completely fine exchange. Adding a wall of text to convey the same information does not help anyone.

  • Waterluvian 3 years ago

    There’s still the ability to just type out half a sentence. Digging a bit deeper, is your concern that “if there’s a tool, people will use it”?

    Aside: I think this creates a delightful opportunity for an unnecessary middleman. Let’s make “Summarizely” a SaaS app to summarize long winded emails!

    • TeMPOraL 3 years ago

      > Digging a bit deeper, is your concern that “if there’s a tool, people will use it”?

      That is a big part of what software industry does to society, isn't it? If there's a tool, people will use it, and when enough people use it, it becomes expected or even required to use it.

      I expanded on that phenomenon a bit in a different HN thread today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34155487.

  • monkeydust 3 years ago

    100%, it just contributes to the digital landfill that is our inboxes.

    Good emails should be written like pseudo code, I suspect this will happen or emails will finally die for something that provides this type of capability of exchanging information in order to facilitate decision making.

    • monkeydust 3 years ago

      Anyone remember google wave (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Wave) - I remember playing around with it with a few friends thinking there is definatley something in it.

    • vidarh 3 years ago

      In the 90's the notion of autonomous agents negotiating to fullfil our goals were for a brief period all the rage.

      Being able to tell an AI what you want and have it translated to actual goals for agents to use to negotiate, and have the result of their search translated back to concise plain text would be great.

    • gajus 3 years ago

      Personally, I switched to voice messages (via WhatsApp or Slack). It doesn't work for everything, but... if I know this will take me more than a minute to type, it is going to be a voice message. If it requires visual aid – Loom.

      The only problem with audio/Loom messages is that it is not easily indexable, but that's a tooling problem that can be easily solved.

      I rarely use email (I may ask someone to compose an email for me). In this setup, I do see value if I had a Slack bot that I could say to "ask lawyers for an update on X". But even then, people would immediately know that the email came not from "me"...

      Personally, I'd like to see more tooling around

      * using AI to auto-polish video/audio communication, e.g. remove long pauses, skip filler words, etc.

      * summarizing video/audio/text communication into bullet points of intel and actions

      • marssaxman 3 years ago

        > if I know this will take me more than a minute to type, it is going to be a voice message.

        I'm glad you and I do not try to correspond!

        • polygamous_bat 3 years ago

          Same here. Audio messages are easy to create for the sender but a nightmare to parse for the receiver. Whenever I receive an audio message I automatically tend to assume that the sender thinks of their time as more valuable than the receiver, which is acceptable in some cases (from busy PhD advisor to advisee) but I find unacceptable in other cases, for example in peer-to-peer communication.

          • gajus 3 years ago

            That view that you are describing is completely culture dependent though.

            The opposite is true in Asia.

            • marssaxman 3 years ago

              I've never heard of that before. Could you describe how it works?

              • gajus 3 years ago

                A search of "voice messaging culture in asia" surfaces quite a few articles on the subject. But the gist is that vast majority of your every day communication with someone is going to be an exchange of short voice messages rather than text messages, both in work and personal context. This includes planning to meet someone, ordering food, "catching up", discussing a meeting, etc.

                Receiving a long text would not be necessarily rude, but unusual.

        • 8n4vidtmkvmk 3 years ago

          +1 but the sad part is that this is trivial to fix with Whisper yet I'm not seeing the integrations in popular messaging apps. just put the text blurb in there automatically already!

      • stavros 3 years ago

        > if I know this will take me more than a minute to type, it is going to be a voice message

        This just shifts the burden from you to the recipient. I don't want to listen to a 1-minute voice message where you pause and try to collect your thoughts, rather than spend two seconds reading two sentences.

      • gajus 3 years ago

        I think the future of work communication is going to be something similar to what these guys are doing https://www.volleyapp.com/ I don't Volley is there yet (or even close), but the concept is on the right path: async video/audio/3D stitched into a coherent narrative thanks to AI.

        Input and high quality audio is the biggest barrier at the moment.

        When I say input, I mean that we need something similar to sousveillance tech that can contribute to conversation without me actively switching context. Just like we would in a real-world conversation.

        When I say audio, I mean that no one wants to listen poorly articulated voice messages that are hard to follow. We need tech that can make each of us sound smart.

        It will happen. Few interesting startups in this space.

  • version_five 3 years ago

    Ironically, based on my experience working in consulting and with exec level folks, what most people need is something that turns long meandering emails into text like your example

    Good emails are short and give only the most relevant info and "ask" of the recipient. Most emails people send get ignored or misunderstood because they expect too much from the recipient, who, unless it's a major priority, doesn't have the time to try and figure out what they're supposed to do from the email.

    I expect this kind of thing will never get traction in most business applications, but an email shortener, definitely.

  • Ken_At_EM 3 years ago

    You’re right.

    Secondary point, if you can’t make time to have coffee for someone for an entire month, it probably isn’t important enough to do, ever.

    • gajus 3 years ago

      That's just not true. You shouldn't take offense to this at all. People have busy schedules.

      • Ken_At_EM 3 years ago

        Almost no one has too busy of a schedule to not squeeze in a 30-60 minute conversation over coffee within a month.

        If I ask someone to coffee and their response is, next month? I’d take it as a clear signal that the content of our conversation or our relationship is not important.

      • duxup 3 years ago

        I don’t think it is offensive.

        I think it is that “next month” is probably an indication of importance and “next month” will be busy too / the importance of a message you want an AI to spam back… still not important.

        • gajus 3 years ago

          Also, "coffee" is like the most generic thing someone could ask for. The more generic the ask, the harder to schedule.

  • channel_t 3 years ago

    Yeah I'm excited about the possibilities of AI as the next HN-er, but this thing is dystopian as hell IMHO.

    • deegles 3 years ago

      dystopian would be if the receiving party is also using a LLM to summarize their emails.

  • jancsika 3 years ago

    It is true that there is a risk of AI adding creating content that is unnecessarily verbose. This could end up consuming time and putting a higher cognitive load on the humans who ultimately read these emails.

    On the other hand, these AI systems will only advance over time. It's certainly within the realm of possibility that these systems will be able to write with increased brevity. Additionally, much like current recommendation algorithms, they will likely adapt to specific needs and styles of a given user.

    Whatever the case, we can expect many changes to the way we communicate in the coming years. You might even say it's a brave new world!

  • ryanSrich 3 years ago

    > is a completely fine exchange. Adding a wall of text to convey the same information does not help anyone.

    Should have been a text or telegram message anyway.

  • frereubu 3 years ago

    I'm old enough to remember when tech folk would tut when someone had a long plaintext signature because it took up bandwidth...

  • fancymcpoopoo 3 years ago

    You can’t find any time in a while month to get a coffee… that’s not fine at all

  • kkyangyang 3 years ago

    what are your thoughts on x.ai from years ago

    • gajus 3 years ago

      Apart from the fact that it wasn't AI, but a human labor performing tasks pretending to be AI, it was a great service.

jacobsenscott 3 years ago

> What you probably want to know is if your emails are safe! Yes, they are safe. All emails are encrypted in transit and at rest.

Lol - this is just what's provide by default by https and every cloud service. It doesn't make your emails "safe". If you don't know why, the are definitely not safe.

Waterluvian 3 years ago

I’m not suggesting someone has expectations of making it big, but I think this is a great example of a gadget with zero moat. Google et al. will tidy it up and bake it into their email clients. They have an appetite for this kind of UX, given they already have the quick responses to emails.

yoyohello13 3 years ago

It would be so nice to have an AI email personal assistant.

An AI that would read my entire inbox and give me a high-level overview of what requires my attention now, and summarizes message contents for the day. Then I can write responses only to emails which I care about.

  • ttul 3 years ago

    I would love to have something like this for Slack as well as email.

    And, I'd say this is definitely coming to you soon via one of the AI juggernauts, likely as a first-class integrated feature of your mailbox and/or chat interface such as Slack. ChatGPT gives us a preview of what is lying just around the corner as a first-class feature of most business productivity software.

love2read 3 years ago

“Write words so someone else will write more words”

  • prox 3 years ago

    “Politely respond I read the polite reply in 500 words or more.”

chadlavi 3 years ago

Would like to see some more use cases illustrated in the marketing page besides "tell people I'm busy until later for coffee meetups."

Most emails I exchange at work are questions to me about specific information or asking me to make specific decisions, or responses from others to specific questions I have posed to them. I don't think this tool could be used for that, unless it had some integration into my calendar and my notes to be able to, for example, suggest a specific time for a meeting, or try to find an answer to a question from somewhere in my notes.

twawaaay 3 years ago

Now what we need is similar that can engage spammers and waste as much of their time as possible.

freyfogle 3 years ago

Here's another one is this rapidly growing space: https://rapidreply.ai

EZ-E 3 years ago

After "sorry, that was the autocorrect", we will have "sorry, that was the AI's response"

  • hunter2_ 3 years ago

    We should coin a short word for it, akin to "typo" for "typographical error"...

    I've been waiting for this to happen with dictation errors in speech-to-text (speako? dicto? the -o suffix would just be an homage to typo) but nothing seems to have caught on. Perhaps it's all just a typo, since the user is generating a typographical error even when the interface is dictation (or anything else) rather than typing via keyboard.

    AIo really doesn't roll off the tongue.

A4ET8a8uTh0 3 years ago

I am starting to think that the prediction thread we had on HN the other day called it. GPT will become end up a fad with few niche ( useful, but niche ) uses, while our signal to noise ration will become even worse.

I do not like that one bit. I am already spending too much time deciding whether email in my box is a waste of time.

voisin 3 years ago

Looks fantastic. I’d be interested to know how it adds the drafts automatically and what kind of privacy access is being exchanged. I’d love if it could be done outside of email for privacy-conscious folks (I suppose ChatGPT!).

Does it only work with Gmail?

butz 3 years ago

> And drafts will magically show up in your inbox, ready to be sent.

One could also say, that spam magically shows up in my inbox :^) What would be really "magical", if those emails showed up in "Drafts" folder.

  • m4lvin 3 years ago

    But wait, I assumed that is actually what it does after you give it access to your email account? (Which us yet another reason I will not touch it with a stick.)

anthropodie 3 years ago

A bit tangential but I am wondering now that we have brought everything online, I guess next step would be to integrate AI everywhere.

Consider this, you want to book your table at restaurant so you tell your AI which will inform restaurant's AI to book a table for you. In this whole scenario where is UI? I mean this whole chat with AI thing kinda makes lot of UIs redundant. I don't need UI for reminders, notes, meetings, search results and whole lot of other things. The advancements of AI will eat most of GUI but dashboards will remain I guess. What do you guys think?

  • dragonwriter 3 years ago

    > Consider this, you want to book you table at restaurant so you tell your AI which will inform restaurant’s AI to book a table for you. Now in this whole scenarios where is UI?

    Chatting with the AI is the UI.

    > The advancements of AI will eat up GUI?

    GUI will still be used for creation and interaction with visual data; but AI will replace some uses of GUIs, sure.

  • burkaman 3 years ago

    > you want to book your table at restaurant so you tell your AI which will inform restaurant's AI to book a table for you. In this whole scenario where is UI?

    - "book me a table at Dorsia's tonight around 6"

    - "The closest available reservation is at 8:30pm, would you like me to book that?"

    - "no that's too late, are any other days open?"

    - "The next available 6pm reservation is on Monday next week, would you like me to book that?"

    - "no I just mean 8:30 tonight is too late because I have an early thing tomorrow, I'll take any time on another day"

    - "Ok, there is a 10pm reservation available tomorrow night, would you like me to book that?"

    - "ok I didn't mean literally any time, is the kitchen even still open at 10? can you just show me a calendar with availability and I'll pick a good time"

    I can't think of any task that I currently accomplish using an online interface that would be more enjoyably or efficiently accomplished by having a conversation with an AI (or a human). The AI doesn't replace the interface, it replaces the communication protocol, which is obviously a bad idea. Clicking Reserve and sending a TCP request is a lot more predictable, efficient, and repeatable than instructing your AI to chat with their AI.

    • KMnO4 3 years ago

      You made an imaginary scenario designed to make the AI look bad. Of course that’s not a great display of the use case.

      How about this?

      > Book me a table for me and Michele tonight at Kingsley’s.

      > “Okay, I checked in at Kingsley’s but there’s nothing available until 9pm. I see you have an early flight tomorrow and won’t be returning until Friday so may I suggest The Lancaster instead? There’s space at 6:30. Michele has rated The Lancaster a 9/10.”

      > Sounds good!

      > “Reservation confirmed. I’ve created an event in your calendar and invited her. Also, it looks like there’s a basketball game happening downtown tonight so I suggest leaving by 5:37pm”

      ——

      I think it’s hard to see past the uncanny valley of AI but the reality is that we’re not going to abandon AI when it’s only 85% there. You could say the same thing about speech-to-text a half decade ago (“I can’t imagine fixing the mistakes will be faster than just typing it yourself”), but I dictated this entire post. Technology moves quickly.

  • ProAm 3 years ago

    Pretty sure this service is already offered by Google or Apple, I remember seeing a demo of it

    • mynameisvlad 3 years ago

      Google offers it for businesses which don’t have online reservations. A robocaller calls for you during business hours to try and set up an appointment.

      The problem is that it isn’t actually integrated into any schedule or reservation system, so they claim availabilities which just don’t exist and you only find out hours later when the business denies the reservation.

harshaw 3 years ago

Kind of would like "train gmail on all of my sent emails and generate replies in my own sarcastic / self deprecating style". If the request is from a certain family member make sure you reply with an appropriate level of delay to know that they are not your top priority. Inject an occasional reply with an uncharacteristic amount of emotion and sensitivity to show that you aren't completely robotic and devoid of humanity.

jbverschoor 3 years ago

More fluff and boilerplate to wade through...

Reminds of of an era of webdesign where about 80% of the screen real-estate was non-content.

sigmonsays 3 years ago

this is a step in the wrong direction. why would I ever want a canned response, even if from AI? Phone IVR systems are already so badly "programmed" you objectively have to say "operator" over and over to reach a person.

In this day an age, this is all the more reason to pick up a phone and call someone.

  • mynameisvlad 3 years ago

    Did you see the email it generated? That’s far from canned.

    And that’s the point, ChatGPT isn’t a canned email. It’s generated, sure, but you’re not sending the same email to 10 people.

    • tsegers 3 years ago

      Whats the actual difference between sending ten identical low-effort auto-generated emails and ten unique low-effort auto-generated emails?

      • mynameisvlad 3 years ago

        What is low effort about the email it generated?

        I would argue there’s a great deal of effort in having an AI generate an email compared to using an email that was written once and reused.

      • notahacker 3 years ago

        The unique ones are more likely to inadvertently imply something you didn't intend ...

AstixAndBelix 3 years ago

Nice idea but not feasible for me right now, for the sole reason that now my email content ends up in the hands of OpenAI.

Can't wait to see the same project using their own servers with their own text prediction models or allowing us to set up one at home!

Wolfenstein98k 3 years ago

Not long now before AI-generated emails get responded to with AI-generated responses, and humans eyes don't see any part of it.

Feels somewhat pointless, although I'm sure it will increase productivity.

ToJans 3 years ago

"I'll have my gpt mail your gpt"

pydry 3 years ago

Those would be useful for dealing with recruiters. not so much people whom I'd actually like to get coffee with.

  • jeltz 3 years ago

    Maybe in the future a long reply would be the rude thing because that indicates you had an AI write it.

teaearlgraycold 3 years ago

Seems very valuable for customer support emails. You could easily charge $50/month for this in that market.

  • mxuribe 3 years ago

    I"m sorry I didn't catch that. Could you repeat that again?

    ...

    Say "Yes", or press "1" to connect with our next level AI.

    ...

    If you stil need help, say "yes", or press "1" to finally connect with a human to help you.

codetrotter 3 years ago

> Note from Kevin! Bear with me, this is just an automatically generated privacy policy. I will get a real one soon.

> What you probably want to know is if your emails are safe! Yes, they are safe. All emails are encrypted in transit and at rest. However, to use OpenAI we need to decrypt on the server before making an API request. In the future, I would love to run our own LLM completely in house so your emails never get sent to any third party ever.

https://www.emailtriager.com/privacy

I sympathise with the fact that formulating a good privacy policy is difficult.

However, I would like to see a better, more specific privacy policy.

Also curious about the implications of forwarding all emails received from others to EmailTriager and to OpenAI.

I am sure some people will not like the idea that private communication that they write to others are made available to EmailTriager and OpenAI.

  • mynameisvlad 3 years ago

    I don’t get this comment’s purpose. The site’s author already agrees with you and has committed to making a better privacy policy. It’s on the list, it’s not like someone has to be reminded of the importance of it was already called out by the author themselves.

    • traceroute66 3 years ago

      > The site’s author already agrees with you and has committed to making a better privacy policy. It’s on the list

      Because, my friend, there are some things that go on to-do lists and some things that do not.

      Launching something that collects personal data AND forwards it to a third party API ? Nah mate, that's NOT something where you can justifiably put "Privacy Policy" on your nearest To-Do list.

      In addition, if you are potentially dealing with users in Europe who are covered by GDPR, a real Privacy Policy is NOT an option, it is MANDATORY.

      I'm tired of software developers, irrespective of size, thinking it's a-ok to to take liberties with the personal information of others and/or not be transparent in what they do with your personal information.

      The fact you are a mom 'n' pop shop and not Google does not make it any more ok.

      Privacy cannot be an afterthought.

      • mynameisvlad 3 years ago

        It’s clearly a hobby project, which means leeway is much more allowed. Furthermore, who are you to tell someone what is required, especially when you’re not paying or even using their service.

        Additionally, the existing privacy policy is a real policy. Just because it was generated doesn’t mean it’s not applicable. Not every policy needs to be handcrafted with love.

        What, exactly, is wrong with the current policy? Have you even read it?

        Finally, what exactly is the purpose of your comment? You may think it’s required, and that’s great, but so what? What does that change? Even remotely? Is the author going to get in a Time Machine and go back to before they created their project to make sure a Privacy Policy is the first thing they make? No.

        Once again, it’s on the list, the author will appease you eventually. Until then, don’t use the service. Problem solved.

        • traceroute66 3 years ago

          > It’s clearly a hobby project, which means leeway is much more allowed

          I'm sorry, but what sort of bullshit is that ?

          The law does not differentiate between "hobby project" or not.

          It would be the ultimate get-out clause for criminals ... "yes, officer, I'm distributing cocaine, but don't worry, its only a hobby project".

          • fragmede 3 years ago

            So it turns out the US actually does make that differentiation. A non-violent individual hobbyist who occasionally deals cocaine on the side and isn't part of a gang isn't charged the same as Tony "Scarface" Montana. Career criminals like the fictional Tony Montana get "I'm a professional" charges while hobbyists do not. Professionals get charged under the RICO Act, which stands for "Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations".

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corru...

          • mynameisvlad 3 years ago

            > What, exactly, is wrong with the current policy? Have you even read it?

            Don’t dodge questions which destroy your arguments and argue against a ridiculous strawman. What, exactly, in explicit detail, is illegal about what the author has done?

            And its obvious, leeway is allowed because it’s a personal project. Nobody is about to prosecute someone over a random hobbyist project that is used by a few dozen people. The amount of resources used will never come close to the payout that would come out of that.

      • nixgeek 3 years ago

        So don’t use the service until they have a privacy policy.

      • jejeyyy77 3 years ago

        lol privacy policy is definitely one of the things that goes on the TODO list.

    • mtlynch 3 years ago

      A big part of launching a minimum viable product is that you get feedback from users about which missing features they care about. GP is providing that feedback.

      The author said that a privacy policy is on their TODO list, but user feedback can influence what priority it receives relative to other items on their list.

  • butz 3 years ago

    I think using GPT to generate privacy policy might be even better startup idea, than generating emails. And then another service to shorten privacy policy to prompts.

  • sneak 3 years ago

    The screenshots are from Gmail users; I assume anyone using Gmail doesn't really care that much about the privacy of their email.

nightski 3 years ago

Making our social interactions even more fake. Can't wait.

  • sigmonsays 3 years ago

    100% this

    I already have enough struggle getting a hold of a real person with these IVR systems.

Keyboard Shortcuts

j
Next item
k
Previous item
o / Enter
Open selected item
?
Show this help
Esc
Close modal / clear selection