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Trauma from the Holodomor genocide continues down through generations

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31 points by boxmonster · 9 comments

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vmurthy

There was a Dutch famine during WW2 [0]. The health problems from that famine got transmitted across generations. It's literally in the genes. Epigenetics ,as it is called

[0]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/31/science/dutch-famine-gene....

331c8c71

Imho it is misleading to introduce Holodomor without mentioning that large parts of Russia and Kazakhstan also suffered from the famine of 1932-1933.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1930%E2%80%...

  • type0

    Imho it is misleading to introduce Dekulakization without mentioning the ethnic context.

  • tarakat

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor#Causes

    regions with higher Ukrainian population shares were struck harder with centrally planned policies corresponding to famine, and Ukrainian populated areas were given lower amounts of tractors which were correlated to a reduction in famine mortality, ultimately concluding that 92% of famine deaths in Ukraine alone along with 77% of famine deaths in Ukraine, Russia, and Belarus combined can be explained by systematic bias against Ukrainians

    [..]

    Under the collectivism policy, for example, farmers were not only deprived of their properties but a large swath of these were also exiled in Siberia with no means of survival. Those who were left behind and attempted to escape the zones of famine were ordered to be shot.

    It's also worth pointing out that your statement is "downplaying" the Holodomor. If applied to the Holocaust instead (e.g. "many died from typhus"), such a statement may be illegal in Canada:

    https://www.thestar.com/politics/2022/04/08/holocaust-denial... (I assume the law, part of a budget bill, was passed, but could not find a source to confirm)

boxmonsterOP

Holodomor (to kill by starvation) was a famine orchestrated by the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin’s Communist rule in 1932-33. Holodomor took eight to 10 million lives of ethnic Ukrainians; yet, it has been silenced and denied at all times

  • fineIllregister

    Important to note that the Soviet Union was forcibly exporting food from Ukraine throughout the Holodomor.

    There was food to eat, the Soviet Union just stole it. It was a man-made famine. Literal mass murder.

  • reisse

    Wikipedia cites different sources that agree while the total toll was eight to ten million lives, only three to five were ethnic Ukrainians, others were Kazakhs and Russians. [1] It certainly was a terrible crime, but it does not look like it was targeted to Ukrainians only.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1930%E2%80%...

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