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Ask HN: How do you collect payment as Startup from Stripe none support country?

12 points by tuyenhx 3 years ago · 20 comments · 1 min read


I wanted to use Stripe to collect payment. But I'm a founder from Stripe's none support countries.

I see there is an option Stripe Atlas. I'm a little hesitate about this option. I totally understand the cost, set up fee and yearly fee. But is there any other hidden fee after this? Like taxes? ...

I did research and saw a few posts tell that, it costed them about 10k/year (When using Stripe + Stripe Atlas) with many hidden fees.

I asked a lot of people around me, they avoided answering this and I don't know why. I even contacted Stripe's support, and they redirected my to a lawyer site with no clear answer. I'm so frustrated.

I have a dumb question.

How do you collect payment if you're in my situation?

Paypal seems a better option for this.

flothebre 3 years ago

There are a couple of alternative that I used before Stripe was allowed in my country:

- Flurly, they take 1% on top of Stripe fees but provide super easy payment setup + dashboard, fraud management. You can be paid by direct transfer or PayPal

- Paddle, never tried but has really good reputation

- Gumroad, kinda same as flurly with higher fees and custom payment pages.

You should consider alternatives before open a US company IMHO (except if you have others reasons to do so) Gumroad (not really appro

carlosleyva 3 years ago

You can also use Wise as an alternative.

For a certain fee they'd give the option of having a "local bank account" in that country so customers can do deposits there. Then you can withdraw to your main account elsewhere.

  • nivertech 3 years ago

    Could you explain how one can use Wise to accept credit card payments for a SaaS website?

    Or just point to the relevant pages on the https://wise.com/ site.

    Do you mean to open US bank a/c via Wise, and then use it with Stripe or similar to accept credit cards?

  • toomuchtodo 3 years ago

    Wise is so good, they’re a Stripe sleeper competitor as credit card payments make way for local instant payments in various markets.

  • tuyenhxOP 3 years ago

    Thank you! Let me check it

ReadTheLicense 3 years ago

Is there not a local payment gateway company where you're headquartered? If not, then a bank should be able to help you with accepting cards, they might even have their own online payment gateway with a simple enough API, or they'll point you to their online payments partner.

  • tuyenhxOP 3 years ago

    I am from Viet Nam. But it will take me a lot of time (1 - 2 months) just for only paper work before really integrate with their payment gateway.

mikhael28 3 years ago

… Bitcoin?

Well, only if the transactions are substantial - otherwise you are getting bones by transaction fees.

You can run your own Lightning node - check out https://stacker.news for an example of proof of concept.

  • tuyenhxOP 3 years ago

    I am not sure accepting crypto is a good idea in my case, since my customers are low tech. They dont know much about these things.

    Last time, when I made a transaction on ETH, it took me 10 mins for wait nodes to confirm and costed me about 20$ of transaction fee.

    How about the speed of Bitcoin network now? Just curious.

    • mikhael28 3 years ago

      Much better. But still slow. Check out the lightning network, and the link I posted above for an example of how fast lightning network transactions are.

      • tuyenhxOP 3 years ago

        Just checked it, it’s very fast. Will the speed still the same if the network bigger?

        • mikhael28 3 years ago

          Probably. If the network grows, more nodes will be added as the demand increases (because the nodes who open the channels, get paid a small amount of money. Very small, but still something).

          You can run your own nodes, and get paid to open your own channels.

alxmng 3 years ago

I’ve used PayPal to accept payments in non-Stripe countries. Even for Stripe-supported countries PayPal is probably an easier checkout experience because most customers just have to login to PayPal rather than getting their card or bank info out.

ev1 3 years ago

I think phrase you are looking for is "merchant of record"

illegalmemory 3 years ago

Please check paddle, another decent option for solo founders.

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