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The puzzle doesn't fit.The ex KGB agent and the dancing comedian

3 points by pavornyoh 4 years ago · 12 comments · 2 min read


The war minus the human pain and suffering is like watching a live chess match. Main players being what I mentioned in the title and then rest of the world on standby with " cleverly worded press conferences". What I can't figure out are;

1)How is Ukraine (inspiring) able to fight Russia - superpower and hangon for this long?

2)How are they able to predict and shoot down Russian jets with precision ? Unless it is us haha fighting on their behalf and with the jets painted with Ukrainian flags? I know... It's crazy thought but..

3)And why would the president of Belarus whom aligns with Russia make a "supposedly mistake as he briefed his generals"about the next country for invasion - Moldova should Russia win the battle?

4)And why during the third peace talk, Russia had five people at the table and Ukraine four? Is it to show dominance? So very interesting to say the least.

The question is who makes a serious mistake at a time like this when they trying to win? Nobody. So why?

One of the rules of chess is to attack the king by focusing on his escape squares and Ukraine is doing it well unless ahemmm...........

Am I making sense or am I a crazy woman? Thanks for answering and please have a good rest of our week.

afarrell 4 years ago

Chess is a very simple game. All of the rules are known to both players. All of the information is known to both players. It is impossible for a rook to suddenly get stuck in mud or surrender because it feels hungry and confused. It is impossible for one side to roll a set of dice to request additional knights. Neither player’s cognitive abilities are impaired by sleep deprivation or fears of being murdered by a bishop. There are only two players.

> who makes a serious mistake at a time like this when they are trying to win. Nobody.

The number of examples of military blunders in human history is too numerous to count. Some examples you’ll want to look at include the British defense of Singapore, the peninsula campaign of the US civil war, the Franco-Prussian war, and the 12 battles of the Isonzo river.

  • pavornyohOP 4 years ago

    Yes, it is indeed a simple game. I do agree with everything you have said and I am very familiar with those thanks. I am too addicted to history. Let me ask you this.

    Why hasn't Putin been successful with all his experience? Did he overplay his hand?

    • afarrell 4 years ago

      I have only taken a couple graduate-level classes on military power. The answer to your questions is so detail-rich that for me to presume to know if would be the pretense of knowledge.

      Would you still like my underinformed speculation?

    • vimax 4 years ago

      My guess is two reasons:

        He vastly underestimated Ukrainian resistance
      
      And

        Ukrainian resistance has been supported by Western intelligence and weapons
      
      Putin's day 1 plan was to seize most of the airfields and assassinate the president. These were attempted by trained forces and could have worked. The Ukrainians managed to stop them all. I'm sure these included cyber attacks we haven't heard about.

      After that the Ukrainians have had remarkable success in targeting Russian logistics efforts.

      Few people were expecting such a fierce Ukrainian resistance. That is by far Putin's biggest miscalculations. Even had things gone his way, it's clear now he'd be in for a long insurgency that he wasn't anticipating.

      Putin has made many poor decisions and should have been able to overcome them by force to meet many of his objectives. But, the Ukrainians have had the intelligence and tools to amplify his mistakes into the clusterfuck we're seeing.

      I'm sure Russian morale is low and there were some poor logistics, but it seems exaggerated in the news.

      Putin still has most of his combat forces available and estimates I've heard are he can sustain the attack for several more weeks.

      • moistly 4 years ago

        And

            Yes men and fearful underlings lied about the real state of affairs regarding preparedness, quality of equipment, training, enthusiasm, expenditures, etc.
        
        And

            Russia is corrupt to the core. Funding for training, equipment, maintenance, planning: stolen.
        • vimax 4 years ago

          That seems to be contributing, but the puzzling thing is the lack of those problems in recent Russian conflicts in Syria, Crimea, etc...

          How did their preparedness degrade so much in only a few years with no indication of Russian military bureaucratic breakdown from the outside?

          I'd like to see satellite images of the Russian troop buildup on the border and in Belarus and see if there's any signs of the incompetence and lack of coordination we're seeing in the field.

          • moistly 4 years ago

            A little cheat here, a little theft there, grow it like the parable of grains of rice on a checkerboard.

            Next thing you know, the cheap seals in the bearings of your wheels leak because someone who was supposed to ensure QA was being applied to incoming parts pocketed the money instead. And your soldiers are freezing because someone else didn’t get them winter kit.

            The corrupt leader has a dozen corrupt ministers who have a dozen corrupt public servants each managing a dozen corrupt upper management… until eventually Wade in Procurement pockets a few thousand dollarydoos by not paying employee Enum to test the seals for Quality Standard X… and ditto for the other dozen(s) under Wade’s department.

            As the corruption grows, it becomes more blatant. The Wades trust one another less. Start watching their back. Become more siloed. Underlings start noticing the corruption from above. It starts to infect the workplace… right down to the guy who installs the seals and notices they’re not as beefy as the previous shipment, but doesn’t say anything to his manager because he’ll just catch shit. The guy who was runs the Personal Deploy Kit checklist ordered heavy mittens, got wool fingered gloves. It’s career-limiting to get that corrected. Boys aren’t invading anyway, it’s just exercises.

            Unchecked criminality grows exponentially as it goes downchain.

          • moistly 4 years ago
    • AnimalMuppet 4 years ago

      Putin seems to be growing increasingly paranoid. Even if not paranoid, he has a history of imprisoning or assassinating those who politically oppose him.

      Such leaders tend to hear more and more what people think they want to hear, and less and less reality. Mistakes in judgment follow almost inevitably.

      Putin very much overplayed his hand... but he may have had a flawed understanding of what his hand was.

tannerbrockwell 4 years ago

The Ukraines shot one of their negotiators for treason. Maybe no one wants his seat.[1]

[1]: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10582805/Ukrainian-...

  • pavornyohOP 4 years ago

    It could be. He was accused of being a double agent so you probably are right. I think I am thinking too much. But it is interesting how the Russian president has often been portrayed when he could be a dud? Not as smart and strategic? Just thinking out loud so don't mind me hey haha...

    I can't just can't fathom how a man so smart as he is often portrayed - with b*s and feared is head to head with the Ukrainian president. Did everyone get him wrong for years? Hmm...

gvb 4 years ago

1) How is Ukraine (inspiring) able to fight Russia - superpower and hangon for this long?

A: “In a fight between a bear and an alligator, it is the terrain which determines who wins.” – Jim Barksdale

Parable explained: "Barksdale: Well, in the animal world, a bear is not going to whip an alligator in water. And an alligator isn’t going to whip a bear on dry land. So, it’s not just the fighter, it’s the terrain that they’re on..." https://hbr.org/2014/06/dont-play-with-dead-snakes-and-other...

Russia is struggling, especially in the north, with adverse terrain. See also "Feeding the Bear: A Closer Look at Russian Army Logistics" [1]

2) How are they able to predict and shoot down Russian jets with precision?

Ukraine started the war with some of the best antiaircraft missiles and some of the best fighter jets Russia produced. That has been augmented by both Russian-made MANPADS (Strela [2]) and US-made MANPADS (Stingers [3]). The aircraft have to fly low because they don't have (enough / many / any?) precision guided bombs so they have to fly low in order to drop bombs with any accuracy. That makes them vulnerable to MANPADS. There might also be some cuing hints coming from the AWACS planes orbiting in Poland.

[1] https://warontherocks.com/2021/11/feeding-the-bear-a-closer-...

[2] https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-news-...

[3] https://www.forbes.com/sites/craighooper/2022/03/08/ukraines...

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