Scientists sign “Open letter to Spotify” re:Joe Rogan misinformation
spotifyopenletter.wordpress.comI am looking forward to seeing a detailed list created by these doctors and scientists with time stamps from the interviews that counter or refute the statements with references both with the interview of Dr. Malone and the interview with Dr. Peter McCullough. If there are alternate sides to the story then we should all have access to them and hear what the medical community have to say. Even better might be if the medical community put forth some doctors to be interviewed on these podcasts.
This. Rogan has had numerous pro-vax mandate doctors and guests on the show.
These scientists are free to ask to come on the JRE and share their views.
It seems unreasonable that listeners shouldn’t be allowed to hear any other viewpoints.
I don’t think it’s reasonable to ask someone to come on the show if they feel misinformation is being spread. A simple list of inaccuracies should suffice.
Here "other viewpoints" means advising to take poisonous, non-FDA-aproved, ineffective horse tranquilizer instead of real medicine to fight a deadly disease during a pandemic.
Who advocated taking horse tranquilizer?
Are you referring to ivermectin?
What, you haven't heard of the ketamine early treatment protocols?
Hah. I’m might need to get in on that protocol
This kind of framing of the “information marketplace” is really really naive. It’s a good sound byte because “who could be against the free expression of ideas” but assumes a world without market distortions caused by people with disproportionate reach and impact.
It’s really really stupid for someone with a huge audience to bring on an anti-vax nut job and uncritically interview them because simply being on the show at all lends their message legitimacy — “this person who I trust to curate content says this is a voice worth listening to.”
The message isn’t “you shouldn’t be allowed to listen to their viewpoints” but “what the fuck Joe, you basically endorsed these idiots and people actually listen to you.”
There's no shortage of media in the information marketplace promoting the pro-vaccine, pro-mask, and pro-lockdown points of view.
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Let the list of names be part of the public record "forever".
Just a reminder: JRE is entertainment. The root problem isn’t Rogan (or hundreds of talk show hosts like him), it’s the desire to consume entertainment instead of information, and the willingness to trust entertainers instead of experts.
But while that’s a huge problem that can’t be easily solved, it’s easy to go after Rogan. After all, he started out interviewing with tons of curiosity, but since COVID/BLM/2020 election, his show has turned into an echo chamber where he willingly abandoned his curiosity and critical thinking and jumps on the bandwagon of whatever ideology he feels like promoting that week.
He was a Charlie Rose for the common man, now he’s more like a Hannity for the common man.
FWIW- Story picked up by NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/01/14/world/omicron-covid-...
This letter is more of a misinformation than JRE.
care to elaborate
For one, Joe Rogan is not transphobic. If they perpetuate that misinformation, you should be skeptical of the rest.
I'm not going to spend time on the rest of the falsehoods.
Joe is not always right in every moment with every statement, but he does correct himself when new information is presented to him. He talks a lot about this. He wouldn't have the number one podcast if he wasn't genuine and a good person.
I recommend listening to several whole episodes on topics of interest to you, rather than taking what a sound bite oriented, context avoiding, secondary source is saying.
>Joe Rogan is not transphobic...
What makes you say this? Isn't he one of the biggest culture warriors who demonizes trans people, i.e. claiming they are a big problem when they really aren't? He takes sides firmly against trans people participating in society like cis people do. You can't really get more transphobic than that.
Nobody would really care about being around trans people if influencers like Joe Rogan didn't say they were an inherent problem that need to be dealt with. He cites the accomplishments of trans people in sports as if that is a problem in and of itself... trans people succeeding. Like just the thought of a trans person doing well is enough to set Joe Rogan off and stir up his millions of followers into an anti-trans rage.
It's like those open letters about climate change. won't change anything
this is like cherry picking people imo. I found a couple who seem to be working in Alzheimer's research, so not sure what triggered them...