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Researchers find ApplePay Visa contactless hack

bbc.co.uk

29 points by mbrundle 4 years ago · 5 comments

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skibz 4 years ago

> The researchers say the Android phone and payment terminal used don't need to be near the victim's iPhone.

> "It can be on another continent from the iPhone as long as there's an internet connection" said Dr Ioana Boureanu of the University of Surrey.

While I don't doubt the vulnerability is serious in close proximity, saying it can work from another continent sounds like total nonsense. That would have to be one hell of a powerful radio signal.

Surely this researcher was quoted out of context in that it's the Android phone that can be on any continent?

  • mr_toad 4 years ago

    > Surely this researcher was quoted out of context in that it's the Android phone that can be on any continent?

    That’s what the article says, as far as I can tell. They still need a radio receiver near the iPhone. The android phone can be anywhere.

    I’m not sure how this threat differs from a payment card that doesn’t require a PIN for purchases under $x. Presumably you could use the same attack.

    • rawling 4 years ago

      I assume it's just that the AP limit of £1000 is an order of magnitude higher than the limit for a physical card. (Maybe the Transit limit should be lower?)

      I would also assume that this is why the article references Samsung Pay but not Google Wallet - the former seems to have a Transit-like option but not the latter?

  • boffinism 4 years ago

    Both the android phone and the payment terminal can be on another continent. The only thing that needs to be in close proximity is some commercially available electronics.

  • atatatat 4 years ago

    Why? Relay it via Wireguard tunnel.

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