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visionrare.com

13 points by jacobclaerhout 5 years ago · 16 comments

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berberous 5 years ago

The three other comments on this post feel like they are from the creators and friends...

  • cfup 5 years ago

    The way they do it is quite obvious.

    > virtually invest in any of the YC companies from W18 - S20.

    > Be quick, the earlier you buy the better the deal.

    Sound like a scam to me

    • jacobclaerhoutOP 5 years ago

      We are building a game where people instead of keeping an excel file with the startups they believe in and would have backed should they have the capital/access, can keep a digital portfolio. Just like in Fantasy Football, you'll be able to get real returns (albeit a lot smaller than real equity investing).

  • janhenr 5 years ago

    Know the founders personally, but my comment still stands. Was honestly not a fan of the whole idea up until their launch day today.

  • jacobclaerhoutOP 5 years ago

    We only know janhenr, who's an avid PH reader, personally

wallacoloo 5 years ago

So this is like synthetic stocks, but only for (illiquid) startups, and gamified?

It’s hard for me to tell what value my “investment” in any of these fantasy startups creates. I would much rather invest directly in the startup, where my money can be visibly put to use by the startup to help realize their goal.

  • poppejans 5 years ago

    Your investment creates no value, this is less like synthetic stocks, and more like horse track betting. Just like with betting, you bet on some companies (horses). The bets then go into a pool (of which visionrare takes 20%). Based on the performance of the company (or horse) you pick, you get paid from the pool.

    I'd be surprised if this didn't get regulated as gambling if a government watchdog decided to look into this.

  • jacobclaerhoutOP 5 years ago

    It is indeed a lot like synthetic stocks, but for private companies. This brings quite some complexities along in terms as how to value the companies even if just relative to each other. To help solve that we're partnering with startup data providers and are building scoring algorithms.

    If you have enough money and access to deals, it is undoutably better to invest in real equity. However, through our game we aim to empower people that don't meet that description to learn, have fun and become micro-backers of companies they believe in.

poppejans 5 years ago

What countries are you licensed to operate in? Some countries will also punish the player for playing on unregulated gambling sites, so it would be nice to know which countries you're licensed to operate in.

poppejans 5 years ago

What blockchain will the NFTs be stored on?

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