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Why Atlassian Products Suck?

10 points by mickamy 5 years ago · 12 comments · 1 min read


For they are dog fooding.

moksly 5 years ago

Because they are an industry in their own. Project management is only valuable if it puts out a net positive in terms of time invested/gained.

With Atlassian there is a very real risk that it’s going to be a net negative that you can’t get away from because it’s slowly taken over your project management culture.

What’s worse is that many talented developers simply don’t want to waste their time in the Atlassian product suite. This means you need to either offer them enough interesting work or enough money to put up with it. Project managers on the other hand likes the control, many even prefer the extensive tools to looser forms of project management. If you’re not careful this can quickly turn your organisation development culture into one that’s driven more by project managers than developers.

That’s not to say that you can’t succeed with Atlassian products, because you can. It’s just that they hide the fact that managing software developers is incredibly hard, and that makes your organisation susceptible to believing that it isn’t.

They also cleverly hide metrics regarding their own cost, both in terms of time and licensing, but that’s not exactly exclusive to Atlassian.

  • mickamyOP 5 years ago

    Thanks. I think I could understand what u said partially.

    We simply do not need to manage talented developers, is my thought.

Nextgrid 5 years ago

Too many JavaScript developers.

  • mickamyOP 5 years ago

    I just can't understand why they can hire many developers. I mean, who are paying enough money to Atlassian?

    • jstx1 5 years ago

      Who isn't paying money to them? They're the largest player in their market and had revenue of $1.6 billion last year.

      • mickamyOP 5 years ago

        Yeh? I don't wanna pay my money to them personally. I just can't get it that they are so popular.

raxxorrax 5 years ago

They are ok for what they intend to solve. They suck the fun out of development though and I don't want to work at companies that employ it anymore.

  • mickamyOP 5 years ago

    Yeh? What is the problems they intend to solve?

    • raxxorrax 5 years ago

      It can solve some project management issues for large scale teams. But it highly depends on how a company uses it. It is not mandatory to organize work though and I have only seen in companies you might not want to develop for.

      • mickamyOP 5 years ago

        Thanks for sharing. My company ain't so big (less than 150), so I guess they just don't match to us.

        • raxxorrax 5 years ago

          If all those are developers it might, although I don't recommend it. If not, I would search for alternatives. I was talking about Jira here, don't know too much about other products.

          • mickamyOP 5 years ago

            Thanks.

            Jira might be OK for me too. All the web products by Atlassian (Jira, bitbucket, and confluences we are using) are soooooooo slow from Japan. And it is the 80% of my hate. Is it not from US or somewhere?

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