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Ex Military Intelligence Showing Vulnerabilities in US Voting System [pdf]

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5 points by tyc85 5 years ago · 14 comments

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weare138 5 years ago

This entire thing is a hot mess.

and 75 hashed passwords available in TOR nodes:

What does this technobabble even mean?

Dominionvoting is also dominionvotingsystems.com

The anonymous author uses a screenshot from the Way Back Machine from 2011 to connect the 2 domains. There's one massive problem with this assertion. The current dominionvotingsystems.com domain was registered on 5/28/2020:

Domain Name: dominionvotingsystems.com

Registry Domain ID: 2530599738_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN

Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com

Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com

Updated Date: 2020-05-26T15:48:58Z

Creation Date: 2020-05-26T15:48:57Z

The anonymous author makes no effort to explain this obvious and glaring discrepancy. The entire basis for what ever it is he's alleging hinges on this connection. The rest of the information presented it spurious, irrelevant and relies on broad, completely unsubstantiated assumptions. For example:

A search of the indivisible.org network showed a subdomain which evidences the existence of scorecard software in use as part of the Indivisible (formerly ACORN) political group for Obama

Wow, got all that from a subdomain? That's his 'evidence'? To top it off he never even tries to explain what this Scorecard software has to do with anything.

This Dominion partner domain “dvscorp”

This entire connection is based on the fact they're hosted by the same ISP but again never explains what it had to do with anything other than there's a Chinese domain with the same name? Again like every other reference never explains how it connects to anything else.

The author is going in 20 directions at once but never gets anywhere. Hell who is this person? Since when can you present an anonymous affidavit and declare yourself an 'expert' without presenting any credentials? This is pure insanity. If you believe this I have a bridge in New York for sale. Contact me for details.

  • tyc85OP 5 years ago

    Hi, appreciate the suspicious things you pointed out. I do think there are gaps in the allegation. It could be all absurd. I'd like to find out what are absurd, and what are not. The judge, the lawyers know who this person is since it is a court filing. He is still under penalty of perjury. His credentials are described in first page. Again I'm here to learn what experts think of these connections. They can be weak and point to nothing, and I am happy to hear about it. At least next time my radar will be sharper.

    Here's how I understand some of his points, and willing to be corrected:

    - and 75 hashed passwords available in TOR nodes => I interpret it as he can find passwords available to login these systems. Is this plausible? Does that show the system could be vulnerable, or not really?

    - dominionvotingsystems.com domain was registered on 5/28/2020 => this only show it was registered again, correct? The redirection from dominionvotingsystems.com cease to exists sometime between 2011 and 2020, that's true.

    - This Dominion partner domain “dvscorp” => I thought the key is that the same domain is hosted on the same server hence have some relation. But I could be wrong, that all of these are just hosted by the some ISP service, and somehow the ISP would cohost unrelated domain on the same IP or server/VM.

    His stated credentials: I was an electronic intelligence analyst under 305th Military Intelligence with experience gathering SAM missile system electronic intelligence. I have extensive experience as a white hat hacker used by some of the top election specialists in the world. The methodologies I have employed represent industry standard cyber operation toolkits for digital forensics and OSINT, which are commonly used to certify connections between servers, network nodes and other digital properties and probe to network system vulnerabilities.

  • tyc85OP 5 years ago

    Hey, thanks again for challenging the thoughts and I learned something new.

    I found an "expert" affidavit that shows the name (Navid Keshavarz-Nia):

    https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905...

    Wonder if this one shows more merit so we can get on track to discuss if there's some serious vulnerabilities. It is more high-level though.

nobody9999 5 years ago

https://www.thedailybeast.com/infamous-hoax-artist-behind-tr...

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hammer-scorecard-vote-coun...

  • phendrenad2 5 years ago

    Those are entirely unrelated to this it seems, but still interesting links. Thanks!

  • tyc85OP 5 years ago

    Thanks for sharing but not related to the question I asked or the court filing I shared. I would encourage people to read more court filing, and less news media on the internet. At least those are sworn under oath and under penalty of perjury.

    • nobody9999 5 years ago

      >Thanks for sharing but not related to the question I asked or the court filing I shared.

      Actually, it is.

      If you actually bothered to read the filing, the person swearing out the affadavit is definitely Dennis Montgomery, peddling false links to foreign entities as well as unsubstantiated and previously debunked misinformation.

      Which he's been doing for decades, only now he has a new crop of suckers.

      • tyc85OP 5 years ago

        I see. Thanks. Before you pointing out that you have high confidence the person should be "Dennis Montgomery" I cannot see the relation. If so, those links are indeed related :)

        Will lookup this guy.

        • nobody9999 5 years ago

          According the the affidavit, the "witness" claims:

          "I was an electronic intelligence analyst under 305th Military Intelligence"

          Which doesn't really say a whole lot, because the 305th Military Intelligence Battalion[0] is:

          "part of the United States Army's 111th Military Intelligence Brigade located at Fort Huachuca, Arizona. It consists of three companies: A-Alpha Company, B-Bravo Company, and C-Charlie Company. The battalion's mission is primarily to train Initial Entry Training Soldiers for Military Occupational Specialties (MOS) 35F - All Source Intelligence Analyst, and 35G - Geospatial Imagery Intelligence Analyst."

          That group is a training battalion, not actively engaged in intelligence activities.

          [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/305th_Military_Intelligence_Ba...

          • tyc85OP 5 years ago

            Thanks for digging out the details of hit credentials. It's possible that his credentials may not be as "qualified" to make such big allegation? I don't think I can make a judgement just based on the information you provided until I know what's his real duty and his past experience are. I tend to judge just based on the information he provided. And thanks to your other information, I see the flaws :)

            Here's an "expert" affidavit that shows the name (Navid Keshavarz-Nia):

            https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905...

            At least I want to know whether the system is really vulnerable, since if it is, it can go either way. Perhaps this should be another thread :)

        • nobody9999 5 years ago

          >I see. Thanks. Before you pointing out that you have high confidence the person should be "Dennis Montgomery" I cannot see the relation. If so, those links are indeed related :)

          Some additional information regarding the affadavit you referenced. It's a blog post[0] from the developer of the tool used in documenting the "evidence" contained therein.

          Just to clarify, I didn't go looking for this. I ran across it while perusing the "new" submissions here on HN (https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=smicallef).

          [0] https://medium.com/@micallst/misusing-osint-to-claim-electio...

          • tyc85OP 5 years ago

            Hey, thanks for the reference link from medium. That's a pretty good write up. I learned a lot. The author seems a bit biased though, when he claim quite strongly that: "Therefore, all the claims in the report about dominionvotingsystems.com — while potentially valid — have nothing to do with dominionvoting.com." After stating some of his own findings. I somehow feel like it's a hard sell to me that dominionvotingsystems.com is absolutely not related to dominionvoting.com given the name. And the fact that they used to redirect back in 2011 add some probability of the relation, however small probability you would weigh in for that addition. The changed of hands from Canada to US and back to China, does not reduce the chance of relation. If may increase the chance of relation given the company's footprint.

            In sum, I can now see that this affidavit drew weak connections and made strong conclusions. So the credibility of the allegation is not that high. But to be fair to the person, it is court filing and he will be accountable for lying.

tyc85OP 5 years ago

I wonder how would hackers look at this analysis/information.

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