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Germany considers amendment which makes it illegal to run a Tor node or website

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13 points by noeatnosleep 7 years ago · 5 comments

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luckylion 7 years ago

As far as I know, it requires intent to do something illegal, i.e. running an illegal platform for drug & gun sales with the intent of providing that service.

Just running a tor node wouldn't be touched imho, but yeah, it's a terrible idea in general.

  • deogeo 7 years ago

    That involves the fun prospect of having to convince a judge on what your intent was, and being jailed if you fail.

    • jdsully 7 years ago

      Shouldn’t it be the opposite? The prosecutor must prove your intent to do something illegal?

      Germany is not common law so I’m legitimately unsure.

      • deogeo 7 years ago

        Ah, sorry, I didn't mean to imply guilty-till-proven-innocent (I don't think that's how German law works). Merely that a prosecutor is going to present some evidence to try and imply your intent was illegal ("67% of Tor traffic is illegal therefore the accused is guilty!"), and you better hope your arguments will be more convincing.

        Basically it makes Tor nodes too much of a legal gray area to safely operate.

        • luckylion 7 years ago

          I talked to a lawyer friend of mine and he confirms that the law is pretty broad, but not that bad. A person using TOR won't be targeted on this, they already have laws to get buyer & seller.

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