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23 points by icehac 10 years ago · 22 comments

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Tharkun 10 years ago

Maybe it's time the porn industry got serious about ditching flash. Porn is the only reason why I still use flash, and I suspect I'm not the only one.

soylentcola 10 years ago

I know I'm beating a dead horse but it would be nice if they still didn't make you opt out of McAfee when you download one of these critical updates.

If they absolutely must use these sleazy methods of making extra revenue, couldn't they just limit it to a singe opt-out the first time you install Flash? Kind of ridiculous that they're still trying to scam a buck out of the transaction when you're only downloading yet another update because of security holes.

Kinda makes you wonder why you have to update the program so often, regardless of these more serious issues if each update brings another chance that you'll forget to uncheck the box next to the yellow "M".

  • mikestew 10 years ago

    In addition to the constant stream of vulnerabilities, it's behavior like this that made me dredge up my old saying that I used to have for products from Real Networks: there's nothing on the internet that I need to see so badly that I'm willing to install Flash.

    Now that I think about it, it was exactly this behavior (ride-along crapware) that had me dumping RN products. (Except RN became downright deceptive about it.)

rbanffy 10 years ago

It's quite shocking how many 0-day vulnerabilities these guys fix.

  • bmm6o 10 years ago

    Each fix is in response to an exploitable flaw in their software that was discovered by a hacker. It's quite shocking how many exploitable vulnerabilities exist in Flash.

  • reboog711 10 years ago

    Do you mean: "It is quite shocking how many 0-day vulnerabilities Flash has"

    Or do you mean

    "It is quite shocking how many 0-day vulnerabilities other software companies don't fix"

    • rbanffy 10 years ago

      Both are shocking, but, in this case, I wonder how many vulnerabilities do they catch before they become 0-days.

jordanlev 10 years ago

Does anyone know how this relates to the "built-in" flash component of Chrome? I don't actually have flash installed on my computer (so it's not available in Firefox or Safari), but I can use it in Chrome because it came with it. Will it just automatically get updated the next time Chrome is updated? Or is there some explicit step I should take outside of waiting for Chrome to update?

flashguy 10 years ago

For how much the majority of HN shits on Flash, yet insists that all other topics remain positive when critiquing a topic, where do you all see the best solution?

Make a startup that provides a tool for designers to translate placing this image and its associated animations at these positions visually on a timeline that a non-programmer can adjust as needed.

Oh wait, none of you have ever been bothered to do that since the beginning of time. The fault must lie with the ad indusfry and not you.

Haha

885895 10 years ago

By definition once a fix is available it's not a 0day anylonger.

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