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31 points by mrbiber 11 years ago · 21 comments

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narrowrail 11 years ago

As the only other HNer with more than single-digit karma, I will try to give an objective overview of the project as I see it (this is taken from their FAQ):

-the device is €49 during the KS campaign, even though their FAQ says €59. It will be €79 afterwards.

-the HW has USB, HDMI (or is it eSATA?), and ethernet ports (one each), and 16GB of storage. It is based on the Allwinner A13 which as 256MB of memory.

- it appears they are using kernel version 4.03, though refer to it as Linux Libre (a phrase which I'm not familiar with, but full source code is available)

- DNS will be handled giving everyone a subdomain on omb.one or one can use their own domain; SSL will be handled using self-generated certs and Letsencrypt

- security is handled using GPG with keys being stored on device or transferred via USB. There is also something they call Private Link Message (PLM) which is used to communicate with people not using GPG, and appears to send a one-time-access [SSL] link (either on omb.one or your domain) that expires after it is accessed or at a specified date; the recipient has the ability to respond via a web interface. One can also activate a private HTTPS interface for one-way comms to your specified own-mail account

- there is some mechanism for P2P backup that requires 70% uptime on the user's part (remember, msgs are encrypted), but the mechanism for this functionality is not clear

Overall, I agree with their motivation, and think they have thought out much of their approaches, but it seems they are slightly confused in their target market (it is a mix of non-technical and quite technical). I also am not smart enough to adequately determine the soundness, but it seems quite sound. I would be interested to read what more technical folks on HN think.

Edit: I would also like to see how this hardware could be used for communication other than email, like a web-based IRC alternative (or IM). Gitlab has integrated an interesting project that maybe suitable for this piece of hardware: https://github.com/mattermost/platform.

Edit2: I would also like to see this project look at using mailpile rather than roundcube: https://github.com/mailpile/Mailpile.

megapatch 11 years ago

This is exactly the kind of project we need these times. I hope this works out OK for these guys (I am backer #7). I hope it works out for us backers. Also I hope someone will later make a RaspberryPi image with almost the same functionality, ready to download and use (but, alas, you have to provide your own mail domain). Still, this is the right thinking. Email is the one protocol we easily can have at home, reasonably secure, with all the benefits and almost no negatives. My peers do not even need to know where the mails go!

greenyoda 11 years ago

Not sure why these people are spending so much money to develop their own hardware (40% of total cost) when this software (mail server, PGP) can be run on many cheap, off-the-shelf systems, like Raspberry Pi.

  • ycomb6234 11 years ago

    Mainly because it cannot be trusted enough for this kind of application. It is not Open Hardware. The processor used is very closed, even the data-sheet is not accessible to the public. (It's very problematic for a device like Own-Mailbox very sensitive regarding politic.) The Raspberry Pi is provided with non-free software and the hardware needs non-free driver to work. (Also problematic.)

    Raspberry Pi is bigger and less energy efficient.

    On top of that, we don't use it for prices reasons, people have already tried to sell all-in-the-box devices based on Raspberry Pi and the end up being expensive.

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1547898916/own-mailbox-...

  • megapatch 11 years ago

    I guess Raspberry Pi would be actually more expensive than this. Also, I think not having to set up this tech stack myself alone is worth more than 30 Euro...

  • mrbiberOP 11 years ago

    I'm not affiliated with the project, but from what I gather from the description, the reason is that they want to have completely open hardware.

  • kapu 11 years ago

    Because Rpi is not an open hardware :-/

ycomb6234 11 years ago

“If you spend more on coffee than on IT security, you will be hacked. What’s more, you deserve to be hacked.

— Richard Clarke

Marti55 11 years ago

I love this project. I already bought mine.

gadou 11 years ago

I just Backed it! Hope it will be good!

josejuanisaac 11 years ago

AY YO kickstarter wont let me login.

Gartfield 11 years ago

That's good!

hasanHH88 11 years ago

Good project

dardevil91 11 years ago

go go go

pparent 11 years ago

I am impatient to see the result of this campaign!

robinmglsk 11 years ago

Love this project!

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