France is getting download tax for content providers (€0.055/GB) for data delivered to French users

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France is getting download tax for content providers (€0.055/GB) for data delivered to French users

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If i understand correctly every company that offers content for download will now need to pay for every GB downloaded by French users.

Google Translate Summary (if somebody from France translate is i will edit post)

This amendment from the Socialist and affiliated group proposes the introduction of a tax on digital data producers. It aims to restore fairness between the taxation applied to established players in the economy and that applied to globalized players in the digital economy, who largely escape traditional tax mechanisms.

This tax is based on a non-relocatable tax base: internet data transmitted to users. It is paid by data producers and collected by the government through measurements taken by internet service providers. It relies on existing technologies and a methodology developed with industry specialists. The majority of this tax would be paid by major international tech and digital players, representing a large share of the data transmitted to French households. At a rate of €0.055 per gigabyte, a revenue of €10 billion is expected. This model does not raise privacy concerns since the data is never accessed (only its quantity is assessed), and it also has an environmental benefit as it will naturally encourage data providers to adopt the most advanced technologies for compression and optimization of data volumes.

Reviving the French economy requires rebalancing the contribution of different economic actors to the national tax effort. On one hand, there is the established economy, comprised of businesses, industries, and the sale of goods and services. It occupies premises, employs workers in France, and finances its direct or indirect use of public services, roads, hospitals, schools, civil defense, the police, and our national defense… because its tax base is physically located within the country.

On the other hand, a deterritorialized economy, it sells to the same customers, uses the same infrastructure, benefits from the same public services, but its tax base is a self-declared profit, that is to say an accounting entry whose location it decides according to its interests.

Insofar as this new digital economy is characterized by its ability to operate across borders, with high margins and by marketing only intangible services or even, seemingly, free for the consumer, it is very difficult to bring these players into the scope of traditional taxation, justifying the creation of a specific contribution.

The idea is to use as a tax base a proxy of their activity which is the quantity of data (the "gigabytes") sent by the actors concerned (the GAFAM and others) to French consumers.

ARCEP estimates that data traffic sent to subscribers of internet service providers (ISPs) in France amounts to 200 billion gigabytes per year.

This contribution would mainly concern the very large players on the internet: Google, Meta, Amazon, Netflix and Akamai (cloud player) alone representing half of the data traffic measured by ARCEP.



VLC Makers say that this will cost them over 1M euros per year that they don't have because they are non profit.

According to Steam Stats in past 7 days French users downloaded 62.7PB

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That is 62700000 x 0.055€ = 3,448,500€

So Valve alone will potentially need to pay France €3.5M per week and that is like €180M per year (if i did math correctly, pleace correct me if i am wrong :D).

This is pretty mental, sites are just gonna start blocking France en masse.
This sounds like hell and will only raise prices for consumers everywhere.
Is this the thing that South Korea has?

Their internet providers really hate high bandwidth services, since data transfer is taxed.

This could be pretty disastrous for France if heavily regulated.
This is really fucking dumb. It's just not realistic.
lmfao. yeah, that's gonna work out real well. valve ain't gonna pay €7 when someone wants to download phantom blade.
I had no idea this was going on.

how does this relate to torrents?

I don't think sites are going to start blocking France, but products in france are going to start getting an additional fee added to their transactions.

Sounds like a great way for everywhere to stop letting French users download from them. I know the French state is cash-strapped but this sounds like a complete non-starter.
Sounds like people in France are about to get a lot of price increases for digital goods
It has to be approved by the Senate and it probably won't.
They'll just throttle French users until everyone uses a VPN.
After the UK's face sitting porn ban from yesterday, probably not a bad idea to get ahead of the curve.
This is so unbelievably stupid.
I'm going to have to read up on this a whole lot more.
That is a complete insane rate. 10 bucks tax to the content provider for the end user to download gta 6 lmao
France is not getting that. A minority group in the Assembly is proposing this to act as a proxy to tax large foreign service providers who don't pay what they should be paying.
Un taux de 0,055 euro par gigaoctet est prévu par le dispositif. Un plafonnement de la taxe est prévu pour tenir compte des secteurs possédant structurellement un ratio de données émises par euro de chiffre d'affaires élevé comme la vidéo à la demande ou le jeu vidéo.
This feels like an unbelievably bad idea.
I dont see this actually ever actually being approved.

Imagine Sony having to pay 10€ each and every time someone downloads or redownloads GTA VI. Not to mention the updates

I don't understand what the point of this policy is. lol

I get taxing digital services properly because they're multinationals that escape paying local taxes, but paying per gb downloaded is insane. lol

I don't understand what the point of this policy is. lol

France needs to find more ways to fund the government and social services cause they're already knee-deep in costs.

Which….this ain't it.

I don't understand what the point of this policy is. lol
in modern politics policies don't need points, they just need to piss somebody your base hates off
This is absolutely insane, what?

Was this passed already?

ok this is a proposal from a minority in the assembly lol

might as well ignore

This model does not raise privacy concerns since the data is never accessed (only its quantity is assessed), and it also has an environmental benefit as it will naturally encourage data providers to adopt the most advanced technologies for compression and optimization of data volumes.
This is such insanely stupid reasoning. (A) It DOES raise privacy concerns as the government/ISP needs to know what businesses to tax and how much (hence you must record subscriber X was accessing Y service at Z time), and (B) all it encourages is offloading the costs of the tax right back onto French consumers with bandwidth fees, or denying them access to the service entirely.
How did an "amendment proposal" become "French is getting download tax"? This is a really irresponsible thread. Straight up twitter tier levels of discussion.
This is absolutely insane, what?

Was this passed already?


According to post few posts above it still needs to get approved but it passed voting.
France needs to find more ways to fund the government and social services cause they're already knee-deep in costs.

Which….this ain't it.

in modern politics policies don't need points, they just need to piss somebody your base hates off
They're pretending downloads are like a utility and that companies are making profit on gigs downloaded. I can't imagine someone thinking this is how the world works. lol
According to post few posts above it still needs to get approved but it passed voting.
Is it possible for it to "not get approved" at this point or is it just a formality? Not really familiar with French politics
Dumbest politicians on Earth.
This is absolutely insane, what?

Was this passed already?


No, this is a proposal from members of the socialist party and affiliated groups. Thread title is incorrect in wording making it seem like it's approved, but as much as people are saying "don't overreact", I just want to make this clear - This is a stupid proposal that cannot work without massive caveats.
There are a lot of crazy taxes, so why not also tax internet traffic.
But more than 5 cent per GB is crazy.

Also, a pretty bad idea to go alone on this route.

If anyone still has any questions why people were harping all over net neutrality some years back
Goodbye France, you are becoming an offline country now.
How did an "amendment proposal" become "French is getting download tax"? This is a really irresponsible thread. Straight up twitter tier levels of discussion.

Literacy lol
France is not getting that. A minority group in the Assembly is proposing this to act as a proxy to tax large foreign service providers who don't pay what they should be paying.

Yeah, OP really fucked up the title of this thread. A proposed amendment is not "this is happening". It seems to me more like a symbolic proposal designed to draw attention to how little large tech companies pay in taxes more than a realistic proposal they expect to pass.
They're pretending downloads are like a utility and that companies are making profit on gigs downloaded. I can't imagine someone thinking this is how the world works. lol
you see, the internet is a series of pipes...
in modern politics policies don't need points, they just need to piss somebody your base hates off

That's what's so daft about this. They can say it's a tax on tech companies all they want, but every cent of it will obviously be paid by the consumer.
Very misleading title leading to reactions from people who don't read past it, it's just a proposal. It'll never be an actual thing.
According to post few posts above it still needs to get approved but it passed voting.

change the title, shit is misleading....

it's an amendment proposal, not something that is happening

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