DeVault: Reforming the free software message
Posted Jun 20, 2023 8:24 UTC (Tue) by ddevault (subscriber, #99589)
In reply to: DeVault: Reforming the free software message by coriordan
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DeVault: Reforming the free software message
Posted Jun 20, 2023 12:27 UTC (Tue)
by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
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DeVault: Reforming the free software message
Posted Jun 20, 2023 17:10 UTC (Tue)
by rgmoore (✭ supporter ✭, #75)
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The FSF treats RMS as "too big to fail", he is such an important creep that we cannot remove him. This is not okay.
More generally, even if RMS had no personality problems, he is still a mortal human being who is 70 years old. The FSF has a serious bus problem. They need to cultivate future leaders, including giving those people an important role with the freedom to do their own thing and make their own mistakes. I just don't see that happening. I suspect that's a big reason they wound up bringing RMS back; they didn't have anyone ready to take over. That doesn't speak well to their long-term health as an organization.
DeVault: Reforming the free software message
Posted Jun 21, 2023 4:13 UTC (Wed)
by saraht (guest, #165715)
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DeVault: Reforming the free software message
Posted Jun 21, 2023 7:45 UTC (Wed)
by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239)
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DeVault: Reforming the free software message
Posted Jun 21, 2023 7:55 UTC (Wed)
by marcH (subscriber, #57642)
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DeVault: Reforming the free software message
Posted Jun 21, 2023 8:18 UTC (Wed)
by paulj (subscriber, #341)
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DeVault: Reforming the free software message
Posted Jun 21, 2023 8:21 UTC (Wed)
by ddevault (subscriber, #99589)
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DeVault: Reforming the free software message
Posted Jun 21, 2023 8:39 UTC (Wed)
by paulj (subscriber, #341)
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DeVault: Reforming the free software message
Posted Jun 21, 2023 8:48 UTC (Wed)
by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239)
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That is a pretty fucking awful example! Attempting to coerce someone into a relationship with you when there's also a power dynamic involved is abusive behaviour that should absolutely disqualify anyone from being in a leadership position.
DeVault: Reforming the free software message
Posted Jun 21, 2023 8:52 UTC (Wed)
by paulj (subscriber, #341)
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DeVault: Reforming the free software message
Posted Jun 21, 2023 10:56 UTC (Wed)
by coriordan (guest, #7544)
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Hang on a sec, 27-year-old Richard said something at the end of a meal. In 1980, before GNU or FSF. And he apologised.
https://stallmansupport.org/debunking-false-accusations-against-richard-stallman.html#suicide
He's 70 now. This isn't in the category of errors that marks someone as a bad person for life. Has no one here said anything wrong in the past 43 years?
DeVault: Reforming the free software message
Posted Aug 1, 2023 13:29 UTC (Tue)
by paulj (subscriber, #341)
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DeVault: Reforming the free software message
Posted Aug 1, 2023 13:42 UTC (Tue)
by paulj (subscriber, #341)
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And that is a very useful page you've linked to. Very interesting, wow in fact. So the bed was a lie too? Those throwing around these smears should be ashamed.
DeVault: Reforming the free software message
Posted Jun 21, 2023 9:07 UTC (Wed)
by ddevault (subscriber, #99589)
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DeVault: Reforming the free software message
Posted Jun 21, 2023 9:49 UTC (Wed)
by paulj (subscriber, #341)
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DeVault: Reforming the free software message
Posted Jun 21, 2023 9:51 UTC (Wed)
by ddevault (subscriber, #99589)
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One woman's experience is not all women's experiences. Will you only believe stories of problematic behavior if you hear them directly from the victim?
DeVault: Reforming the free software message
Posted Jun 21, 2023 10:08 UTC (Wed)
by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
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DeVault: Reforming the free software message
Posted Jun 21, 2023 10:13 UTC (Wed)
by ddevault (subscriber, #99589)
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Okay: what of it?