This lets us discover resilience and redundancy within a diverse ecosystem;
It's already been made clear as a bell -- NixOS (or at least its representatives here) does not wish for a diverse ecosystem, so this rings hollow.
This is, fundamentally, my objection to the conversation.
Nix is radical.
There is nothing radical about a distro that pretends no other distros exist, then has a track record for members that don't know how tools work and consequently submits broken patches to various projects that not only break other distros, but fail to solve the purported NixOS problems either.
There is nothing radical about being totally uninterested in the needs of others, then telling them to distro hop to "my distro, which is objectively the best", because, direct quote:
I propose not using them and using Nix instead. I'm not dreaming of a fix for systems that I do not like the architecture of.
(The juxtaposition of those two sentences indicates that it's less "I'm not dreaming" and more "I discourage anyone else from dreaming".)
There's nothing radical about insisting on engineered overcomplexity, pointless security issues that necessitate even more pointless layers of protection, throwing money at problems until they go away, or insisting that cross-platform solutions are useless because Nix is the only thing that matters.
There is... something somewhat radical about reproducible builds in supply chain security, but leave it to NixOS extremists to think that only they qualify to speak on the topic, and then somehow randomly decide that all the excess baggage involved in NixOS is a fundamental component of the act of being reproducible, rather than NixOS's implementation of it.
There's nothing radical about knowing nothing about security, pretending that we don't have a wealth of trivially discoverable knowledge both about security vulnerabilities in general and about tar vulnerabilities specifically, and then getting hung up on demanding that someone who is happy with the existing fixes that work well "literally everywhere" (not an exaggeration) and has already attempted to leave the conversation, must provide executable test cases that prove whether NixOS is safe, when NixOS is the one trying to prove something.
But also, there's no real point in @ mentioning me when I'm already sick and tired of NixOS extremists whose only answer to any conceivable problem is "lol u suk just use Nix". This is just the latest example of it -- NixOS people never change. It's terrible advertising, and the number one reason I have zero interest in EVER using NixOS under any circumstances -- I have zero confidence that NixOS has any interest in working with, rather than against, other projects, since invariably the answer is that people should feel bad for not using NixOS, or writing software that compiles on platforms other than NixOS.
I DO NOT WISH TO BE @ MENTIONED BY NIXOS SHILLS TELLING ME MY PROBLEMS DO NOT MATTER BECAUSE I SHOULD HAVE USED NIX.
I want to be unsubscribed from this conversation without being dragged back in, because I have zero confidence I can otherwise avoid people telling me that my problems do not matter and I should just use NixOS.
Allow me to quote myself from above:
so at a certain point I have to acknowledge that I'm not getting anything out of this discussion and need to step out and disable notifications.
Stop pestering me about NixOS.
Thank you.