Is this ever going to leave American shores? Would love to be able to pay for things with my Android phone in the UK
Me too, this is why I'm going to get an iPhone next. I really want to the convenience of wireless payments.
Me too, this is why I'm going to get an iPhone next. I really want to the convenience of wireless payments.
For a Global company, they are rubbish at realising there's a world outside both states.
I hate to say it, but Apple is much better at global rolloutsEverything takes time to rollout and googles playstore is in a lot more countries than apples
Bear in mind, ApplePay will be obsolete soon. With only 12% phone marketshare, the instant Google's payment system arrives on iOS (as most Google apps do), there is no reason for retailers or banks to support a minority system like Apple Pay...
Don't worry, you aren't missing much. It barely works in the US.
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I disagree, it can be used almost everywhere (Subway, McDonalds, Target, etc.). By November it will probably be able to be used nearly everywhere since retailers are all upgrading to chip-card readers and most are updating to contactless readers also.
It works pretty well in the US. The main problem I have is when there's no internet access at the checkout or the cashiers not knowing that the POS terminals support it.
Couldn't agree more!!! Yes as mentioned above this technology is still fairly new and therefore won't work everywhere but I can't wait to experience making my first payment using my Android phone!
Seriously, it's not a big deal. I've done it a number of times with Google Wallet. It's really not that innovative.
Seriously, it's not a big deal. I've done it a number of times with Google Wallet. It's really not that innovative.
Bring this to New Zealand, most of our terminals support contactless pay and all of them are chip capable now. Why roll this out in the US, when New Zealand is a smaller country and our payments infrastructure is years ahead!?
US really needs this.... chip & pin not working in US, signing for credit cards or just swiping without any security at all, zero concept of id theft amongst companies taking card details, atms charging a fortune to get cash out. Rubbish!
Google wallet has been around for a while, this is pretty much a rebranding. Plus wallet works on Apple pay terminals too
I might be wrong but I think Apple pay and Wallet use the same technology via NFC
Agree totally. After the failure of Wallet to ever get beyond America, and now Apple and Samsung are in the UK or basically places that aren't just America, it seems to be a bit bizarre that a company like Google hasn't looked beyond one place. If it ends up being months and months a wait then it is going to be ridiculous. Already seeing tons of Apple Pay logos in shops, Google are only going to fall further behind annoyingly.
It already exists as Google Wallet. I've used it for 3 years, since NFC was included in Android phones and tablets. This is just an overhaul to make it even better. The iPhone has barely had NFC for a couple of months.
Is this ever going to leave American shores? Would love to be able to pay for things with my Android phone in AZERBAIJAN
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To people complaining about it not being in the UK:
1) We have contactless debit cards - that's the same thing and they work in more places than apple or android pay will (at least for a good while)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jTk3Fv9idoSamsung Pay will be available across the world in short time, also it will be compatible with almost any point and sale device which has magnetic reader for card swipe.
Many banks in Canada support payment via NFC on android already, Google or Apple pay not required.
RBC Wallet and Scotia Mobile Wallet are two examples.
only on certain carriers. Im not on a big carrier and they dont support mobile payments.
The way that RBC, Scotia, TD, and all Canadian banks implemented mobile payments is broken by design and relies in antiquated Secure Element support, which requires cooperation between carriers and phone makers and banks - the end result of which locks out an incredible number of potential customers since you can only use it with certain handsets from certain carriers. Android Pay does not use this outdated technology at all and uses Host Card Emulation which was introduced in KitKat last year.
As of today. RBC app now support mobile payment for all kitkat+ users regardless of carrier. Wish makes Android pay useless for RBC users. Well played RBC they beat Android pay to a Canadian release...
An why not?
Google is an international company....Only because Google could have sewn up the mobile payment market long before Apple if they'd concentrated on Wallet more and looked at the market outside of the US.
I suppose we in the UK moan about it alot is due to the fact that we have had nfc terminals pretty much everywhere for many years and yet google will not seem to bring pay out here... surely the UK should be a good candidate for the first roll out?
Agreed with Mark. Concentrating on fast growth Android heavy markets like China, India, Brazil and Europe would have helped Wallet. Besides many markets outside US don't have the kind of carrier control on Android as the US does
im happy with android and what it does in the uk. thanks android your beating apple again and again.
It's funny because Canada has the highest amount of contactless payment terminals in North America yet they don't roll it out here as well.
I think our banking regulations make it more difficult than simply shipping an app. Not to mention most of the banks (the ones that matter) already have contactless-payment built into their apps so they have no incentive to share their transaction fees with Google (or Ugo or Apple - that's the only reason Apple Pay isn't available here yet). Some smaller banks and credit unions might get on-board with Google (and Ugo or Apple) to avoid building all this themselves, but they're probably not your bank.
And having used my bank's wallet extensively when it initially came out I can honestly say that tapping my credit card is still much more convenient. And since tapping isn't universal you still need to carry your card for when the chip (or mag-stripe or imprint) is required so you might as well just use your card.
Google does not charge transaction fees for android pay: http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/googles-unwanted-advantage-no-transaction-fees-for-android-pay/
I downloaded the "new" wallet and it's exactly the same, different GUI but no tap and pay for Note 3 still. From what I understand, it is a hardware compatibility issue which is Samsung's fault. I got Softcard working at one point on my Note 3 (formerly known as ISIS Wallet).
Wallet and Android Pay are two different apps
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So, I'm going to lose my current ability to tap and pay with my local community bank debit card until they jump through some hoops, if they choose to, at some point in the future. I'm not very happy at the moment.
Same here. I use Wallet all the time.
If I'm reading the Pay site right, it looks like it *might* proxy the card like Wallet did. The partner banks just do direct-tokenization, so the bank gets all the transaction details like you used the actual card. (So, rewards, etc.)
Based on an article on Android Police (http://goo.gl/LzKsCF), cards loaded into Google Wallet prior to the upgrade will be grandfathered and work with Android Pay. But you will not be able to add them once your app has been upgraded.
So, I currently use Google Wallet for NFC payments, and my bank isn't on that list. Are you saying once I "upgrade" to Android Pay, I'll no longer be able to use the functionality?
Just amazing work, Google.
please stop whining about it not being available in your respective countries. i live in the u.s. and my credit union is not being added at this time. so guess what, i have to wait, switch to an approved bank, throw in the towel or use another service until then. per my credit union. they've yet to consider android pay or the upcoming samsung pay. when it comes use, i truly believe it falls on the institution you bank with, regardless of where you live in the world. good luck to everyone.
If Apple can do it, so can Google. They should really listen to the consumers if they want to keep them.
Android Pay proxies unsupported banks... Was able to add ALL my cards which were unsupported
Trust me the banks in the UK if there was a chance to have us spending would be on Android Pay in moments. I believe a huge international bank HSBC got in trouble in the UK as they were in such a hurry to promote they were moved back launch wise which create a mass of complaints from users in the UK.
The emails,newspaper adverts poster in bank windows and the mass clamour for the big high street banks (which most of the population use) to be onboard asap demonstrated and Android Pay and Apple Pay launch has made the news on the BBC.
In the US it might seem hi tech to use NFC or chip and pin in the UK for many its the norm for a long time (In tech time)If Google had rolled out Wallet in 2012 in the UK or a number of other countries around the world it would have taken off not feebly crept along as it has.
Did Google really exclude rooted users? I would rather use Android Pay at my own risk and remain rooted as GW did. You're obscuring in the cloud so why not allow a rooted device?
Because if a person wanted to they can swipe your phone numerous times assuming your phone is rooted badly, it probably isn't but could you imagine all the bad press?
Because if a person wanted to they can swipe your phone numerous times assuming your phone is rooted badly, it probably isn't but could you imagine all the bad press?
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You started off on the wrong foot. Wallet was working perfectly on my CM12.1 phone and Android pay will not. Can you blame the OEM vendors this time Google?
So, Google has Wallet out for 4 years . . . And never gets it beyond America. And in that whole time, they haven't been working on deals with UK and European banks etc in order to have a mobile payment service that all of their customers can use? Apple managed it in considerably less time, so how come Google seemingly can't? At least just put everyone out of their misery and say 'there are no plans for further countries to be added', or give us a rough idea when we can expect other countries to be able to use it.
As an American who has had the chance to use Google Wallet on my phone (since 2012), I would say you are not missing much. The only MERCHANTS accepting phone payments are McDonald's and Walgreens. That is my fuss, no Merchants are adapting to the technology. Apple Pay and Google wallet need to have the NFC terminals or you are out of luck. But I feel for you guys, better to have something than nothing at all
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I barely saw any comments from Japan. So I've lost all hopes that this system will come to Japan. Although. Here some others systems already exist to pay for train, bus, taxi, convenience stores. But credit cards and debits cards is a new thing. Oh well...
So we already have all infrastructure set for this technology but Android pay doesn't look like its getting here any soon. Even Google wallet was blocked in Japan.
So we already have all infrastructure set for this technology but Android pay doesn't look like its getting here any soon. Even Google wallet was blocked in Japan.
Every single time Google updates an app they seem to make the app less convenient to use.
1) I'm now required to have screen/pin/passphrase lock on my phone. Google Wallet has its own PIN authorization. Why can't Android Pay? Why should I have to unlock my phone every time I pick it up just to protect against the 1 or 2 times a week I want to use Android Pay?
2) It no longer allows me to pay with my Wallet Balance. I assume I can fix this by applying for a Wallet Card... but why would they remove this functionality?
3) Google Wallet with NFC tap to pay supported all cards. Android Pay is limited by participating banks.
4) Are non-stock unlock screens unsupported? My friend's fingerprint unlock screen doesn't seem to count since he's still prompted to set up a lock screen.
This is a pretty horrible evolution for the user experience.
Hugely disappointing. I really liked Google Wallet and felt comfortable with the security measures in place - a single pin entered within the app. I also liked that that I could have a different measure of security for my Wallet from that of my entire phone. If I wanted to let my cousin use my phone to play some games, I've basically just given him access to my entire wallet as well since all that's needed now is the phone unlock. For my personal use, a lock screen is more of a nuisance than anything else and I resent that the update requires that I both use a lockscreen as well as remove root access to use the app (I tried the temporary unroot to load my cards in there, but when I reinstalled SuperSU, functionality went out the window). While I suppose I could learn to live with these compromises, I remembered that the whole point of this was supposed to be convenience - something the Old Wallet did quite well. With Android Pay, I found that I was jumping through too many hoops for what saves me perhaps 5 seconds at the checkout counter. Google has severely missed the mark with this one.
My eager anticipation for the redesigned and relaunched Google Wallet as the new Android Pay was slaughtered by a poorly implemented user interface design as Android takes a play out of the big Redmond, Washington playbook.
Android Pay forces users to set a lock screen password. That is NOT how I use my device. I do not lock my device. It is a cumbersome implementation of a step that I don't need in my day-to-day life. Let me choose how I want to use my device, don't TELL me how you want me to use it.
Give me back a classic Google Wallet type pin screen. The current implementation of Android Pay with the hard-handed security tactics is a major step backward. I am abandoning Android Pay until this egregious design limitation is updated to something that will function for the way that I use my device.
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Les concepteurs de ce système pratiquent la fuite en avant, aucun problème n'est résolu avec les mise à jour, ils se contentent d'empiler les problèmes les uns sur les autres...
Sortir de nouvelles versions tous les 3 mois sans résoudre les problèmes antérieurs ne sert à rien.
Faites donc tester vos maj par des personnes qui ont un sens critique, pas par des fans...
Le premier exemple qui me vient à l'esprit, prendre un appel.
Ne pourrait on pas avoir un bouton ou appuyer pour décrocher?
Cela existe bien pour raccrocher...
La il faut tirer une bille vers la droite sur plusieurs centimètres, impossible pour moi...
Maintenant pour accéder à une conversation cela prend un temps fou...
C'est nul, surtout que la nouvelle présentation est à chier, ne pourrait on pas revenir à l'ancienne version?
Les notifications...
Etait ce bien la peine de transformer ça en arbre de noel?
Avant c'était correcte, je voyais tout d'un seul coup d'oeil, maintenant je fais défiler, défiler...
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That's very strange. I'm able to add Chase credit(Master) card to Android Pay of my personal account as with only card being associated with. But, I have problem to add same Chase credit card to my business account(with Google) being associated with multiple credit and debt cards... Very Strange......
That's very strange. I'm able to add Chase credit(Master) card to Android Pay of my personal account as with only card being associated with. But, I have problem to add same Chase credit card to my business account(with Google) being associated with multiple credit and debt cards... Very Strange......
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I've downloaded Android Pay and screen lock is set-up, which was a requirement. But now I have Android Pay and Google Wallet.
Google Wallet kept my pin. But no pin is required for Android Pay, which I want. Why wouldn't there be a pin for Android Pay as well. Its a an extra and necessary security precaution whey your phone is in use (not locked).
I have $0 in my google wallet which requires a pin. And have three credit cards that got moved from wallet to android pay. I don't get it. why put people's credit cards at risk without a pin under Android Pay?
If I lose my phone while unlocked, someone has free access to my credit cards in Android Pay?
