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216 points by Transisto 11 years ago · 75 comments · 1 min read

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... Has tools to measure 3D buildings and other locations, print high-resolution screenshots, view demographic and traffic layers, and even record your virtual trips.

superdude 11 years ago

Years ago before I started at my current job some people had Google Earth (free) on their PCs. But then someone read an updated Terms of Use and determined that we actually needed to be using the paid version of Google Earth so many people had their copies removed from their PCs. Then around the time I started someone read an updated Terms of Use and it was determined that there was no problem using the regular version of Google Earth. So it became part of the standard build. Then about a year ago someone read another updated Terms of Use and determined that we were out of compliance and so we removed all copies of Google Earth from all computers. And then we purchased licenses for Google Earth Pro for only those users who really relied on it. For a yearly per-user fee. And now apparently we can install it for everyone once again. For free.

I wonder if Google realized that a lot of companies and government organizations were confused about licensing or ignorantly non-compliant or just gave up and tried some other program. I know in my department we already installed alternative software for most people. Although nothing is as nice or easy for exploring or creating KML files as Google Earth in my experience.

  • TeMPOraL 11 years ago

    > (...) tried some other program. I know in my department we already installed alternative software for most people.

    I've never heard of Google Earth alternatives. Any recommendations?

  • gcb0 11 years ago

    nope. it is mostly because microsoft been offering those high quality aerial images for a long time on bing maps for free, but since nobody even know there is a bing map, it wasn't a threat. now somehow google feel they are gaining market and decided to counter attack.

    • raverbashing 11 years ago

      Yeah, too bad Bing Maps search is a bad joke. Really

      You have to specify if it's a Address or a Place (if your initial search doesn't work, which is pretty much always)

      • tazjin 11 years ago

        Where I live (Stockholm) Google Maps has become completely useless at finding anything.

        It used to be the case that you could search for the name of a store chain (e.g. Systembolaget - the state alcohol stores) and it would show some of their stores on a map around you, nowadays it picks some random one (never close to where you are) and displays that instead.

        The same thing has started happening for lots of places that it used to find before, that are now seemingly just gone. In the meantime Apple Maps has been consistently improving and is now my go-to maps application on the phone.

        • isaacdl 11 years ago

          Exactly the same thing happens to me here in the midwest United States. If I search, for example, for "fast food", especially on my phone, it tends to shift the entire map to some random city, state, or town (and sometimes country). It seems to have a particular affinity for the state of Alabama and also the western coast of Nigeria.

          • morganvachon 11 years ago

            > If I search, for example, for "fast food", especially on my phone, it tends to shift the entire map to some random city, state, or town

            I thought I was the only one. I've found Nokia's HERE Maps to be better overall than Google Maps when I just want to find a place to eat or shop or visit. For navigation, they are about equal in my experience, i.e. if you absolutely know your destination address, Google Maps is as good as, or better than, Nokia's maps at getting you there.

          • matt4077 11 years ago

            The western coast of Nigeria is where the equator and the prime meridian meet.

            • cbd1984 11 years ago

              > The western coast of Nigeria is where the equator and the prime meridian meet.

              In case some of those terms are undefined: A spot just off the coast of Nigeria is where the 0 degree longitude (Prime Meridian) and the 0 degree latitude (Equator) lines meet. If Google Maps goes there, something zeroed out its latitude and longitude variables, something you'd think they'd test for every so often.

        • blowski 11 years ago

          Similar anecdote here. I live in the south east of England, just outside London. If I search for 'pizza restaurant' it shows me somewhere in the Phillipines. Searching for 'pharmacy' shows somewhere in LA.

        • GFischer 11 years ago

          Yes, it's so bad in so many places I actually started a side project / startup to provide that functionality :) .

          We got to a proof-of-concept stage but it's currently on hold (the other two cofounders quit/don't have time for it either), but I think it's certainly a need that isn't being serviced by Google.

          My project is called EncontraloCerca, it's supposed to be for Uruguay and Argentina first, but when we get to Stockholm I'll let you know :) .

        • cotillion 11 years ago

          It seems even Google has found Lantmäteriets (state owned mapping company) fees to be too high. All building outlines they used to get from them are gone also.

          Hemnet recently created an OSM layer just to get building outlines again.

        • tim333 11 years ago

          Searching for Systembolaget in Stockholm still works for me:

          https://www.google.com/maps/search/Systembolaget/@59.326755,...

    • DeanCollinsNY 11 years ago

      Uhm google images allow you to see way closer.....

      • chrisan 11 years ago

        Guess it depends on where you live/what you are looking at.

        Having just gone through a recent home buying exercise in mid-west I always reverted to bing maps for a "birds eye view" as they had 4 directions of shots from their plane camera while google just had satellite then went into some kind of rendered/extruded view which was kinda eh.

        Now if I compare that to our office in SF then google better than bing for zooming in.

      • bbrks 11 years ago

        Maybe in NY, but for the majority of the UK Bing provides way better imagery.[1]

        [1] http://i.imgur.com/2Oasyw0.jpg

      • gcb0 11 years ago

        you mean image search?

tga_d 11 years ago

Linux support is pretty ambiguous. The download link says "Download Google Earth Pro for PC or Mac," the minimum specifications link gives specifications for Linux, the actual download gives you a binary called GoogleEarthLinux.bin, but when installed gives you an outdated (3 years) and non-pro copy of google earth.

chrissnell 11 years ago

Good, but it's still missing the one key feature that I really need: offline satellite imagery. I guide off-road driving adventures in the western deserts for groups of friends every year. Trip planning is done primary in Google Maps and USGS topos but I occasionally find myself out in the desert and needing to scout a route for a last-minute change but with no way of doing it without Internet and satellite imagery. Yes, it's possible to (legally) cache small amounts of imagery with the stock app but I really want the ability to cache larger areas at high detail. I would pay for this feature, up two a few hundred dollars.

glhaynes 11 years ago

This page has some info on the differences between the regular edition and Pro. https://www.google.com/work/mapsearth/products/earthpro.html

userbinator 11 years ago

I notice the link "grab a free key" leads to a URL ending with free_trial.html, and that page is a form that asks for plenty of information. The lack of any justification for why something that used to be $399 is now free also feels a bit odd to me... like it's somehow implying that giving Google your name, company, phone number, and other information is, to them, worth more than $399?

  • atian 11 years ago

    no. what if you were making a product free that you no longer wanted to support?

    remember: paying users expect support

    a. make free without knowing who is using your project

    b. make free with knowing who is using your project

dang 11 years ago

Discussed earlier today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8973020.

zx2c4 11 years ago

Can we get proper Linux support, please?

The current Linux situation with Google Earth is a joke -- 3 years old, crashes, based on wine, no pro features.

mden 11 years ago

This sounds really awesome, but does anyone have an explanation as to why they are doing it? Building something like Google Earth Pro must take many millions of dollars, so why would a company release it for free?

  • ghshephard 11 years ago

    Google Earth cost on the order of 10s of millions of dollars to write, with a couple of the key companies, keyhole and Where2, being acquired for approx. $40mm. [1] . Google Earth Pro is a small, but very useful addition to the base Google Earth - I know a lot of network designers who get by just fine with Google Earth, and have never availed themselves of Google Earth Pro.

    The real cost, of course, is maintaining and serving all that data. I expect that Google, in offering Google Earth Pro for free, ensures that no other competition can slide into this space, and, I also expect the incremental revenue associated with the Google Earth Pro licenses probably wasn't worth the cost of not owning that market 100%.

    This is going to make life for a lot of the other GIS vendors even more miserable than it already is - I can see MapInfo being annoyed by this decision. Just spitballing, but perhaps Google is looking at acquiring them (or a competitor?)

    [1] http://www.quora.com/How-much-did-Google-acquire-Keyhole-(Go...

    • 7952 11 years ago

      Google Earth has never been a serious competitor for GIS. If they had added more features 5 years ago it may have gained traction.

      It is great for viewing and creating small datasets. Viewing larger datasets required a surprising amount of effort in terms of tiling and converting. The tools built into Google Earth were never very good and people were pointed at server products. This was completely at odds with the simple ethos of Google Earth and often lead companies to invest in expensive ESRI products that offered Google Earth support!

      Google are concentrating on server products with web interfaces and GE never fit into that. It is fantastic for professional users but Google have no idea how to sell to those kind of people.

      • ghshephard 11 years ago

        I am aware of at least approx $500mm company that extensively uses Google Earth/Google Earth Pro for its modeling, analysis, and data presentation needs. In terms of data set sizes, typical sizes range up to approx 3mm-5mm data points per project. The engineers that use GoogleEarthPro also have experience with MapInfo, but frequently chose to use Google Earth, simply because it's easier.

        I'm not suggesting that Google Earth will ever replace MapInfo/ArcGIS - but don't underestimate how much of the "lower end" GIS market that GoogleEarth took away from them.

      • abruzzi 11 years ago

        Which is sad because ESRI desperately needs some competition. It always feels about 10 years out of date.

  • ChuckMcM 11 years ago

    People feel less bad when a large corporation drops all support for a 'free' product than they do for a $400 one?

  • threeseed 11 years ago

    If you don't pay for something you can't expect support or updates.

    So could be that Google is simply moving that team onto more strategically useful projects. Personally I can't see why they kept supporting this as it isn't core business.

  • JoshTriplett 11 years ago

    Perhaps they had few enough customers that the effort of maintaining the "Pro" version wasn't worth it?

    Perhaps they're starting to see a handful of people relying on other data sources, so they want to give people an incentive to stick with Google?

UserRights 11 years ago

Anybody knows a good alternative to this that runs without trouble on Ubuntu and Arch 64 bit Linux machines? Nothing in AUR and I do not feel like hunting for PPA right now.

Meanwhile it would be great if Google could provide a repository with a linux version that runs flawlessly.

Thanks!

sorenjan 11 years ago

How worried should I be that Google will discontinue Google Earth? It hasn't been updated in a long time, Google prefers web apps, and now this. I prefer native apps, and Google maps can't do everything Earth can do.

irq 11 years ago

The picture in the page, btw, is of downtown Portland, OR. That's the Willamette river. A fun place to look at in Google Earth.

neindanke 11 years ago

Registration is failing for me at the moment.

  • ghshephard 11 years ago

    I registered, but got the following when I tried to download:

    http://dl.google.com/earth/client/advanced/current/GoogleEar...

    Access to this site is currently restricted

    • ghshephard 11 years ago

      Waited a bit, got the email, tried again - Everything worked! I've wanted GooglePro forever - and now I have it - to the point of almost ponying up the $400 of my hard earned money for it.

      A really nice post-christmas present from Google.

  • vilhelm_s 11 years ago

    Yep.

    > Error! Your sign up can not be completed due to We're sorry. We are experiencing technical difficulties. Please try again later..

    • Intermernet 11 years ago

      Love that error message (I'm getting it as well).

      "can not be completed due to We're sorry."

      I might start using that as a reason.

  • flomo 11 years ago

    Registration failed for me with a message suggesting such remedies as trying a different email address. Punched in a gmail address and it worked. Perhaps coincidentally.

    • johnpowell 11 years ago

      Same with me. It failed with that error when I tried with my fastmail email address. Switched to a gmail one and then it worked.

      • WorldWideWayne 11 years ago

        I entered my primary gmail address and got the error. Then I entered my secondary gmail address and it worked.

jhansen858 11 years ago

glad i just paid the $400 like a month ago.

  • uptown 11 years ago

    Request a refund, or see if you can dispute the charge with your credit card if they offer any type of price-protection.

gulfie 11 years ago

yes, but when will it stop crashing?

  • barrkel 11 years ago

    Indeed, I got a pure virtual function call within 3 minutes of zooming around.

oori 11 years ago

are google dev working on PC machines? what's up with Retina support?

Negative1 11 years ago

Beware -- this feels like an email fishing expedition. Sadly, I fell for it and got to the same screen everyone else gets too; poorly worded error with no key.

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