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Google's mobile game Ingress enables players to create user-generated missions

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39 points by adrow 11 years ago · 18 comments

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incision 11 years ago

I got an invite to Ingress pretty early on, played heavily for several months then dropped it completely. I never got into the lore and didn't particularly care for bar-hopping meetups. As a game it felt really uneven, free to enact sudden changes in some areas but leave others frustratingly untouched.

Seems pretty polarizing though, among the people I played with many stopped playing long ago while others remain completely immersed.

At the moment, I'm more interested in what Google is/was getting out of it? I haven't kept up, but I can imagine all sorts of interesting data that the game could generate from the obvious cataloging of landmarks to path finding or network effects in the distribution of invites and codes.

I can't help but wonder if this feature is a move toward putting the game out to pasture in a way by putting content generation in the hands of the players.

  • fenomas 11 years ago

    Considering that this is a game whose playing field is the entire planet, content generation has always been in the hands of the players. What surprises me most about Ingress is how little of the game scales that way though. Portals (the nodes players fight for control of) are submitted by players but approved manually, which typically takes 4-5 months. Likewise the game's major events ("anomalies") occur only in a few hand-chosen cities at a time, so most players have never been near one.

    As for what Google gets out of it, originally Niantic's model was to build a business out of a sister app called Field Trip, which is a "show me something interesting near where I am" kind of app. Ingress was there to gamify the content generation, and presumably Field Trip would pay the bills somehow. There was also a tie-up angle, where some company (Jamba Juice?) had all its stores show up in-game as portals.

    But Google acquired them before that process had gotten going, and hasn't done anything of note with Field Trip, so presumably that's not the answer. My suspicion is that they consider Ingress worthwhile just for the the data generated, and for convincing a lot of people to run around with location reporting turned on. You'd think that Google would also start doing something with the user-submitted data (e.g. surfacing the portals in Google Maps as "points of interest" or similar), but AFAIK that hasn't happened.

  • cpeterso 11 years ago

    Android phones are constantly scanning cell and Wi-Fi networks to improve Google's geolocation, mapping, and traffic services. Google/Niantic could direct players (by setting the portal locations) to areas that need more network scanning, beyond the network scanning their Street View cars do.

    At Mozilla, we are trying to do something similar with our "MozStumbler" app [1] for community "stumbling" of wireless networks. You can compare Mozilla's network coverage of the Embarcadero map in the Venture Beat article at [2]. We also have weekly leaderboards to show who has discovered the most new cell or Wi-Fi networks at [3].

    [1] https://github.com/mozilla/MozStumbler/releases

    [2] https://location.services.mozilla.com/map#15/37.7966/-122.39...

    [3] https://location.services.mozilla.com/leaders/weekly

  • sireat 11 years ago

    I had a very similar experience. A very social friend convinced me to try it.

    I got immersed for about a month but then I slowly drifted away as I got the typical Google service experience.

    What do I mean by Google service experience?

    Got to Level 8 but also I submitted about 30 portals, spending a lot of time researching what was suitable.

    Other players warned me that the response would be 2 months, but still what I got was unacceptable:

    4 out of 6 portals were accepted within a month, but they were not the first 6 submitted. The rest of my submission (made over number of days) just fell off the face of earth.

    I waited a few months then completely gave up on the game.

    If you do not value my time to give me even a rejection e-mail, then I do not see the point in playing such a game.

tvanantwerp 11 years ago

I tried getting into this game early on. One option for players was to submit local landmarks as locations of note for the game. I would photograph and submit whatever landmarks nearby I could find. While waiting some weeks for them to be approved, I noticed one day that a bunch of Zipcar parking spots had suddenly become Ingress hotspots. I was so put off by the obvious advertising ploy that I stopped playing right then, and never touched it again.

  • cromwellian 11 years ago

    AFAIK, Google are not selling advertising in ingress like that, so I think you're making bad assumptions. That doesn't leave out people spamming/gaming the system just like blackhat SEOs try to game Google search. I don't think the Ingress people really have the resources to curate all portal submissions.

    It also could be to bootstrap the system, they just points of interest or business entries from Google Map's database. Otherwise, the game would be boring for most people with no portals nearby to play with.

    (If you live in the suburbs, sometimes the nearest interesting thing is a Safeway or Quiznos)

    • healsdata 11 years ago

      No, they made a deal with ZipCar to advertise in game via portals. And every portal submission is reviewed by hand. The quality of the review varies, but there's a 130 day delay right now.

  • fixedd 11 years ago

    Screw those guys for trying to recoup some of the millions of dollars they've spent building the game, right?

healsdata 11 years ago

The last thing Google needs in Ingress is more content than they need to review. They're currently 130 days behind on reviewing portal submissions and this is either going to take just as long, or delay portal submissions even more.

Frankly, I'm shocked that they didn't start with procedurally generated missions first so that everyone can participate and then add hand-curated ones slowly to improve the quality. Instead, they did a big media blitz when a large portion of their player base isn't anywhere near an existing mission.

  • fixedd 11 years ago

    Do we know yet that they're moderating the missions?

    • healsdata 11 years ago

      I'm only going off the article:

      > The Niantic staff will curate missions to ensure that no one does anything nefarious, like putting a pornographic picture in the mission description.

scrollaway 11 years ago

How's Ingress doing nowadays? I never got into it because it sucked so much of my battery life, but I keep receiving their newsletter and it seems like a surprisingly active community.

  • fixedd 11 years ago

    Don't know how long it's been since you played, but there are a LOT more people playing now than even around the new year. The biggest difference to me is that L7 and 8 aren't that hard to achieve any more. I've seen people go from first login to L8 in a week, or so. Back when I hit 8 it took months of regular, dedicated work.

tantalor 11 years ago

The title is killing me.

"Ingress enables players to create missions" or "Ingress adds user-generated missions". Pick one.

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