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89 points by prashantv 12 years ago · 68 comments

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sandesh247 12 years ago

This is much smoother than I thought it would be. Even full screen youtube videos seem to have a passable framerate. Too bad the audio doesn't work.

Edit: Yep, restarting did the trick. Have media apps without Chromecast support suddenly become Chromecast capable? This is pretty awesome.

Edit 2: Why yes, yes they have! Now if only I could stream audio only ...

  • matt_heimer 12 years ago

    Audio works, just restart your Chromecast and device.

  • notatoad 12 years ago

    full screen youtube videos work pretty well with the cast button in the youtube app, no?

    • microtonal 12 years ago

      But that's different, it will effectively send the URL of video to the Chromecast, which will directly get the compressed stream.

      Screen casting with Youtube is a good benchmark of screen casting. Of course, for daily use you'd want to cast from the app directly.

kayoone 12 years ago

Both my TV and my HTC One have Miracast support so i had this working a couple of months ago, making the connection is very unreliable though, so i hope the Chromecast can improve this.

A general thing is that as more and more devices become "smart" in terms of features and protocols etc, it becomes more and more apparent to me how bad the software is on many of these devices. My TV and my router are just some recent examples of buggy firmwares on top of very good hardware. The router supports lots of features like DLNA and VPN which can hardly be called stable and the interface and usability is really dated. Hardware and performance (Netgear R7000 Gigabit Wifi Router) is pretty awesome though.

  • fredsted 12 years ago

    I think there's a huge startup opportunity somewhere in building reliable, stable router software with a slick webinterface built in Bootstrap (without framesets).

    Of course, there's the Apple Airports that have excellent stability and UI, and while I have one and far better than any router I've owned, it doesn't do stuff like VPN.

    • Someone1234 12 years ago

      Depends on which Apple Airport you're utilising. In my experience the Airport Express line (wall socket mounted range extender/WiFi AP) is pretty bad. Seems to get quite hot under medium loads and needs to be reset a lot. Seems like a design trade-off in the sense that Apple went with something small and easy to conceal, but in doing so kind of ignored the heat dissipation.

      The Airport Extreme base stations seem pretty solid. But are 100% more expensive than a comparable Asus offering. I'll leave it to the reader to decide if they offer 100% more value to you.

      I would also like to say that in this day and age having to use an app/application to configure your router just feels wrong to me. Every router on the market has had a web-server/webUI since the Linksys WRT54G became popular. It is obvious Apple does it as an ecosystem lock-in technique, just to stop Windows/Linux/etc clients from trivially configuring the devices.

      • fredsted 12 years ago

        AirPort Express is not in wall-socket format anymore. I own the latest one - I only use it for AirPlay streaming/WiFi bridge, but it has been 100% stable (as long as you connect it to another AirPort - other routers will cause random disconnects). Yes it gets hot - any fanless device gets hot - but hot enough to damage anything. Only bad thing is it doesn't have 802.11ac.

        Also, sure, you're probably right about the vendor-lock in thing. But I also think Apple wants to make sure the user gets a good experience. With a Web app it's harder to do that. But the apps are really nice and simple to use, and after I set up a device I don't mess with it besides opening up ports. That's just the tradeoffs you live with when you get Apple devices.

        That's why I think there's a huge opportunity in creating well designed, good-looking, user friendly network equipment.

    • lvillani 12 years ago

      I have a MikroTik router (http://www.mikrotik.com/) and it's amazing. They expose configuration knobs through three almost-equal interfaces: a custom shell over SSH, a web interface and a Windows application.

      That thing never stops, once it's set up you forget its there and only have to reboot it to update the software (which happens around once a month and it's an event you can skip if it contains no security patches).

      • Someone1234 12 years ago

        I love my MikroTik also but quick word of warning: MikroTik devices are NOT consumer devices, RouterOS doesn't hide anything from you so the interfaces can seem quite complicated to the uninitiated.

        It is super powerful and I've never had to reset mine due to a lockup (although plenty of times due to misconfiguration on my part), but they're really competing with SMB network equipment at less than 1/4th the price (and require technical knowledge to really take advantage/utilise of).

        If you're a network admin or have a lot of time to play (and are willing to read up on stuff you don't understand) then by all means grab a MikroTik router for your home or small business. If you're just some consumer who wants it to "just work" I definitely don't think RouterOS is for you, maybe grab an Asus and install DD-WRT.

    • ixnu 12 years ago

      Ubiquity's EdgeMax is a reliable, stable, and inexpensive router that I have started to roll out all customers. EdgeOS is a fork and port of Vyatta 6.3 (think Junos) and is under constant development with a great beta program. Their devs are active on their corporate forum and are open to suggestions and support.

      Some features that I have used and like: - Solid hardware - Debian based base OS - Nice Web Admin for common tasks like port forwarding, FW, routes, etc. - Stable VPN - Advanced VLAN configs - Class-based QoS with shaping - DHCP snooping - Port mirroring

      • fredsted 12 years ago

        EdgeOS looks awesome. A thousand times better than most of the consumer devices I've owned. A shame their routers are not available here in Denmark.

fenomas 12 years ago

Will this let me broadcast my device screen to my laptop, asked everyone who's ever given a presentation on Android app development ever?

(serious question)

Zikes 12 years ago

I just tested this with my Nexus 5's camera and it even works with video!

https://fbcdn-video-a.akamaihd.net/hvideo-ak-xfp1/v/t43.1792...

hughdbrown 12 years ago

Now if ChromeCast would only reliably work with my Linux machines.

  • Pawka 12 years ago

    I've tried ChromeCast with my Ubuntu. It works perfectly. Even screen mirroring, while friends on OS X had problems with it. Just check for Chrome extension.

  • jfoster 12 years ago

    What problem are you facing? Have you tried the Google Cast Chrome Extension? https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/google-cast/boadge...

    My Chromecast doesn't work too great due to my router, but I'm hopeful that it will once they release the feature that removes the need for the Chromecast and casting device to be on the same network.

  • izacus 12 years ago

    Chromecast DOES work reliably on Linux.

    It DOES NOT however not work on bad wifis and networks. Verify you your router configuration (there's tons of routers that block multicast over Wifi by default which doesn't work well with Chromecast) and wifi network quality.

    • lnanek2 12 years ago

      It doesn't work well on good WiFi either. My work WiFi requires a username and password, so it isn't possible. My home WiFi isolates all clients. Any hotel WiFi I ever saw requires a click through agreement.

jahmed 12 years ago

Seriously this is awesome. Its magical. No wires no configuration. I just got home, tried it, and it worked.

rahimnathwani 12 years ago

I bought a Moto E, and am running the stock firmware (Android 4.4.3).

I can't use Google Cardboard because the device doesn't have the sensors to detect movement or the magnetic 'tap'.

I can't use GoShow (which seems to be the most popular app for watching 3D video) because it crashes.

Today I finally had a reason to buy a Chromecast, until I saw no Moto devices are on the list of supported devices.

:(

  • NicoJuicy 12 years ago

    You bought a smartphone of 130 $, so you have a low-end phone.

    Want a smartphone, buy whatever you want. Want a decent one, spend more then 299 $ ( current situation / most cases ).

    I come accross enough discussions, where someone bought the cheapest smartphone and always wants the latest features. Just didn't think it would be here also...

  • microtonal 12 years ago

    [1] says that support for other devices is coming soon. Given that Motorola is at the moment still Google, runs nearly vanilla Android, and is usually quick to get new features, I wouldn't be surprised if at least the Moto G and X get this soon as well.

    The Moto E is really a low-end device, with a relatively weak CPU, so I wouldn't expect too much at all. Of course, having a Chromecast is still great for apps that support Chromecast.

    [1] https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/6059461

    • rahimnathwani 12 years ago

      > The Moto E is really a low-end device, with a relatively weak CPU

      Yes. Low-end CPU I can handle, as it's still turing-complete :)

      It hadn't occurred to me that I would soon want to use apps that require a compass and gyroscope :(

  • GotAnyMegadeth 12 years ago

    I just downloaded it for Moto X, haven't tried it yet though

tone 12 years ago

Does it bring up a phone and display apps as they would appear on a phone? Or do you just get a fullscreen, list of apps etc? I just basically want a bigger, 1 to 1 direct display of my phone on the screen for demonstrating and testing apps. Anyone know if this is possible with Chromecast?

  • SixSigma 12 years ago

    I use a £15 thing I got from eBay that does Miracast and DNLA and outputs HDMI, the phone/tablet sends over WiFi.

    It is a direct mirror of the screen scaled up.

    The Chromecast is twice the price.

    I use mainly it to watch YouTube stuff with my gran when I visit her.

    • RachelF 12 years ago

      What's this £15 thing called? I'd like to get one.

      • SixSigma 12 years ago

        iPazzPort WIFI Display Receiver TV Dongle DLNA Miracast

        they are a shade over $20 on ebay.com

        There are others. I just took a punt because my Dad bought a Chromecast on the same day.

    • bruceboughton 12 years ago

      Twice the price! Daylight robbery.

      • SixSigma 12 years ago

        It does offer more features, to be fair

        • bruceboughton 12 years ago

          Sorry, I missed off the <sarcasm> tag.

          • SixSigma 12 years ago

            I'm still not sure which side you're on. I think the Chromecast is a slightly more polished product, like many computer bits, you can get better value if you're prepared to have to work a bit or not care about how things look.

lelandbatey 12 years ago

The use cases they list (images and google maps) are great for static or slow loading sources. Does this work for video? Can I stream video that's playing on my phone to the Chromecast and have it look decent? Because that'd be amazing and I would be extremely happy!

  • mikeryan 12 years ago

    I doubt it.

    I've not yet seen a consumer device were video rendering is done on one device then displayed wirelessly on another that works well at all. (Note, most Chromcast apps - Netflix etc) just tell the Chromecast what to play and it does the rendering.

    • SixSigma 12 years ago

      My $20 DNLA dongle plays full screen video just fine, both from YouTube and EurosportHD and just screen mirroring. I have an Xperia Z.

      I've watched a 2 hour YouTube movie on it, with no prob - except that even on 1A mains power it discharges the battery quicker than it can charge it.

    • voltagex_ 12 years ago

      Steam streaming works pretty damn well (over fast, high signal strength wifi)

    • rahimnathwani 12 years ago

      Eh? I can run XBMC on my MacBook Pro, mirror to AppleTV using the feature built in to OS X, and watch video on my TV without dragging my laptop to the living room.

      • casperc 12 years ago

        Personally I get a fair amount of stuttering when I mirror any device (iPad mini retina, iPhone 5s, MBP retina early 2013). Its not alot and some people would not notice/care, but it bugs me. Is yours running as smooth as with AirPlay streaming (e.g. what the youtube app does)?

        I have tried looking into my wireless network, with no result. I am just not sure if it is as good as it can be but some people don't care, or I should keep looking.

        • izacus 12 years ago

          You should keep looking - it should not stutter. Check your actual wifi bandwidth.

          • casperc 12 years ago

            I should mention that it is only the video that stutters, not the audio.

    • thedz 12 years ago

      The Wii U says hi

    • supercoder 12 years ago

      Airplay on iOS and the Wii U controllers both do a fantastic job at this.

      • microtonal 12 years ago

        Video streaming, but the Chromecast can do that perfectly fine as well. Screen streaming of video is terribly laggy and has an ugly quality, at least on our home network (with an Airport extreme).

        • fredsted 12 years ago

          Depends on the device you stream from in my experience. Newer MacBooks have hardware encoders for this, making it pretty smooth.

someperson 12 years ago

I wish Galaxy Nexus was supported!

KitKat really should have been released for the device before official support was discontinued. I kind of feel fleeced given it was a flagship Nexus device (for Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich!)

  • jrockway 12 years ago

    I believe there were a couple problems; the SoC manufacturer getting out of the SoC business (TI) made driver development difficult, and the fact that the image didn't fit in the Galaxy Nexus's flash anyway.

    Though it does appear that CynaogenMod eventually ported ICS, so I could be wrong.

    • someperson 12 years ago

      Interesting point on TI driver development.

      On the second point, KitKat is supposed to run reasonably well on very weak cheaper mobile hardware with 512mb RAM, which is popular in developing countries.

      Galaxy Nexus has fairly high specifications with 1gb RAM, and at least 16gb of storage (which presumably is where the operating system is on this device), so I doubt the image size was the issue.

      There is indeed a Cyanogen Mod ROM available (but I'm not sure how much trust CM). I wonder if Chromecast Android screencasting would work with the CM ROM..

segmondy 12 years ago

Reminds me of www.tinystic.com ,Tinystic promises to deliver the same thing and allow you to use your phone as a computer, video game, movie playing device, etc.

nospecinterests 12 years ago

Well that kinda takes the wind out of the sails of the cyanogenmod peeps. I wonder what the quality is. Anyone know if it will have decent frame rates?

  • kelnos 12 years ago

    I'm confused... this feature has been available in CM11 nightlies for at least a month now (Nexus 4 here).

    Frame rate seems good enough for YouTube, though audio stopped working (didn't get sent to the ChromeCast, and wouldn't play on the device either) while the video was playing.

laichzeit0 12 years ago

Is it technically possible to do this on iOS? I have a Chromecast but no Android devices.

sreyaNotfilc 12 years ago

Time to bring out those NES emulators and Wiimotes again!

  • matt_heimer 12 years ago

    There is a slight lag with Chromecast mirroring. A HDMI adapter (MHL/Slimport/etc) with a wireless controller (I use a PS3 controller) is still going to be a better option.

ericflo 12 years ago

I wonder why HTC One M7 is supported but not M8.

nb1981 12 years ago

magical

nnutter 12 years ago

"these things came to iOS two, maybe three years ago"

  • Too 12 years ago

    Android has had it for quite some time also if you have a smart tv with dlna support(most of the newer ones). What's new is the support in chromecast. Does the ios solution work with any smart tv or do you need an airplay?

  • chambo622 12 years ago

    Android has had Miracast support (with display mirroring) for a while now...just nobody used it. Chromecast is/has the potential to be a much more widely used and supported protocol.

  • NicoJuicy 12 years ago

    Chromecast is not Android.... It's like Apple TV but cheaper and crossplatform (Windows, Android, iOS )

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