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Fable created novel 4D splat format

adamraudonis.github.io

151 points by adamraudonis a month ago · 62 comments

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goosethe a month ago

I feel like I did this one already: https://github.com/seanwevans/4splat

  • noosphr a month ago

    Well there's your problem, you didn't say you wasted a million dollars doing something an expert can do in an afternoon.

  • dwohnitmok a month ago

    Do you know what kind of compression ratios you get out of curiosity? Presumably it would be lower than this format (because this format is meant to be lossy not lossless) but very curious as a baseline.

  • IanCal a month ago

    Admittedly just scanned this but that’s lossless, right?

  • sulam a month ago

    Wow dude. That is a hell of a README. Great job!

  • beAbU a month ago

    Your readme is really mobile unfriendly, FYI

  • BretonForearm a month ago

    spatiotemporal data

delichon a month ago

A gaussian gif. Coming to porn sites soon. The file format name works for them. But imagine whole movies shot in this format. The fly-on-the-wall fantasy of movies, without being locked in place for the whole shot. Narrative possibilities like being able to examine just how close the Tyrannosaurus Rex is to your rear view mirror. Clues in a mystery only visible on rotation. Hidden bonus scenes.

I hope this catches on just to be able to watch the evolution of cameras to capture it.

  • orbital-decay a month ago

    >imagine whole movies shot in this format. The fly-on-the-wall fantasy of movies, without being locked in place for the whole shot.

    That would be terrible. Framing is the major expressive feature in cinematography, and any interactive format needs a lot more thought put into it than just having a free camera. Literally the worst of both worlds.

    Light field video streaming is a thing, however it's pretty niche. OTOY pioneered holographic codecs and light field videos with some degree of freedom and a sense of depth more than a decade ago.

    • skybrian a month ago

      It wouldn't work for a movie, but it might be good for a concert video, stage play, dance, or sports, where you're capturing something happening in a defined space. You could pick a different seat in an auditorium.

      Also consider connecting a virtual space with a real one, so it looks like something happening on a virtual stage that's connected to a room in your house.

    • jayd16 a month ago

      Not terrible, per se, but not a movie. There are other formats that fit the task better like immersive theater and theater in the round.

      This has been extensively explored with VR and games, though.

  • lwansbrough a month ago

    A$AP Rocky did it for a music video. Granted, it was only used for the editing process and not the final video, but it still presents some interesting opportunities, though it doesn't really look real so the applications may be limited.

    https://radiancefields.com/a-ap-rocky-releases-helicopter-mu...

  • andybak a month ago

    Ok but you're commenting on the general concept of animated gaussian splats. That's existed for a while and it's unrelated to what this actual post is about which is a new compression method.

    • delichon a month ago

      I suppose it's the difficulty in recording them rather than the file size that has kept them experimental. But that's not a problem for AI generated splats. GenAI sites could have a toggle from image to video to splat4d.

  • jfim a month ago

    That already exists though. I believe Braindance VR uses a rig with a couple dozen cameras to capture the same scene from multiple viewpoints then converts it to a gaussian splat that can be walked around.

  • hoppp a month ago

    Its great for porn for those videos when the camera seems to be focused on the actors balls when thats definitely not the part I want to be looking at. I can just look around the room instead.

  • braebo a month ago

    So a video game?

chmod775 a month ago

The application is cool, but there is little novelty here. All of the employed techniques are well-established.

I suggest removing "novel" from the title unless you wish to seriously disappoint some people.

  • adamraudonisOP a month ago

    I tried to apply existing mp4 H265 like compression to 3D splats. Do you have any links to other 4D splat formats?

  • AaronAPU a month ago

    But that’s exactly where we’re at. Disappointment is fine, attention is all you need.

Lucasoato a month ago

Doesn’t with for me, iOS Safari :/

adamraudonisOP a month ago

See repo for prompt. Feel free to contribute to format or benchmarking. MIT Open Source.

xiaoyin903 a month ago

https://adamraudonis.github.io/splats4D/

PunchyHamster a month ago

Probably shoud've noted that say Chrome requires some flags enabled

https://webgpureport.org/

ACCount37 a month ago

Does switching scenes in the demo work for anyone? There are what, 3 hidden panels in the HTML there? But none of them have a "switch scenes" button.

gcr a month ago

Something’s way off with these numbers. The page says it encodes video at 640MB/s which is quite large even for 4D data and doesn’t match the filesize of the demo splat (7.4MB / 2sec, or ≈3.4MB/s).

In fact they say the raw file size of the demo splat was only 427MB, so maybe the 640MB/s was a statement about encode speed? Why write it that way instead of “this demo splat was encoded in 0.6sec” or even just “the time to produce the original splat took longer than the time to encode this video format”?

  • danielheath a month ago

    “encodes video at 640MB/s” is the common way for codec authors to talk about performance

reassess_blind a month ago

Whats the 4 in the "4D" here? A layman like me thinks this looks 3D.

  • jasonjmcghee a month ago

    time

    • reassess_blind a month ago

      Why is it we don't call videogames "4D" if they also operate through time?

      • dullcrisp a month ago

        Animations are four-dimensional. Colored animations are seven-dimensional. More if they include surface normals or lighting information. Simple.

      • dietr1ch a month ago

        I guess if moving through time other than forward like normal it'd justify calling time a new dimension on which you can play on.

        Otherwise, we just focus on the 3D space they represent and take time for granted

      • jasonjmcghee a month ago

        3D Gaussian splats are still images of 3D space / photogrammetry

        So I'm guessing it came from representing the additional dimension

zamalek a month ago

> a splat is static iff a single quantized value

What is up with LLMs and "iff"?

  • _0ffh a month ago

    Well, iff is a useful abbreviation. I use it in personal notes at least, and would use it more often if I thought it was more widely understood.

mistahchris a month ago

wow… this is seriously cool.

refulgentis a month ago

Looks like crap, is it the format?

StilesCrisis a month ago

I'm so tired of HN putting sites on the top with zero human authorship. I have to listen to Claude-voice enough at my job.

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